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11-23-2005, 01:37 AM
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Free software existed before Sourceforge was ever thought of. Before the GNU and the EFF ever formed. Before computers had keyboards and mice. Open Source, Public Domain, etc... will exist long after the Web is wetwired to your grandkids brains. |
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#112
11-23-2005, 01:38 AM
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#113
11-23-2005, 01:42 AM
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 Away from that magical word, If you don't want a "hack you have to pay for", you don't have to "pay" at all... you can simply find something for free around the site
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#114
11-23-2005, 02:07 AM
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#115
11-23-2005, 03:04 AM
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Regardless - your point is well taken. I would only value the suggested paid hacks forum if the rules you spoke of were lifted for the actual forum. Personally, I read, hang out, and contribute a lot more at forums where the norm is to allow everyone to have their say and let the readers make their own choice. I hate when somebody filters my information, who the heck do you think you are to decide what information I need? Uggggh... I'm momentarily out of this discussion due to disgust at the ignorance running rampant in the world that makes stuff like this necessary. To those of you who can relate to my sentiment, keep fighting the good fight. |
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#116
11-23-2005, 07:45 AM
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There's no such thing as freedom of speech. Anywhere. You aren't allowed to make for instance severe racist comments and such towards other people.
Anyways, I find it highly amusing that Chris M can argue so strongly against this, yet having COMPLETELY misunderstood the ENTIRE concept of this suggestion. For the quadrillionth time, we are NOT bloody suggesting people RELEASE their mods here. What they WOULD be able to do is add their site to a directory, where they enter what hacks/services they offer, and a link to their site. Users will then be able to visit said site, examine the product for themselves, and either decide to purchase said hack or take their money elsewhere. vBulletin.org would in no way host or support said paid hacks. vBulletin.org would be in no way responsible for the products on the site other than the removal of sites from said directory that the staff recieved a scamming report about. Chris M, can you PLEASE read that segment, and change your tune? It is highly annoying to hear you talk like vB.org would allow the release of paid hacks in the same manner as it does now for free hacks. |
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#117
11-23-2005, 08:26 AM
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A open dialog paid software review forum could become biased because those who are happy, like a satisfied new owner of a car aren't going to hang around the car lot. It will be mostly those dissatisfied customers making the biggest noise.
And as the saying goes ... it only takes a few apples to spoil the barrel. ... though I would add that a collective fermentation of apples can produce delicious scrumpy  Revan, Please would you or somebody start a new poll with this more realistic and more specific suggestion? This poll is too divided and generalized, and something toned down might gain a greater majority. I for one am indebted to the efforts of the coders contributions to this site and feel that a maintained directory of their paid add-ons would be a token of appreciation by vB to the coders and a valuable asset to us users. and personally it is no fun hanging out in the Undecided voters rank  A suggestion... Poll: Should .org have a directory of paid add-ons? Q. ... only of contributing coders to vB.org? Q. ... of any products that integrate with vB? your qoute... "What they WOULD be able to do is add their site to a directory, where they enter what hacks/services they offer, and a link to their site. Users will then be able to visit said site, examine the product for themselves, and either decide to purchase said hack or take their money elsewhere. vBulletin.org would in no way host or support said paid hacks. vBulletin.org would be in no way responsible for the products." Permission to list and placement of listings would be at the discretion of vB. |
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#118
11-23-2005, 10:24 AM
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maybe a new poll is in order now.
One that has SEVERAL options of how those that would like to see it implemented, done. If people are against it, they don't need to vote or contribute to the thread. Personally, I would really like to see a rating system based on value, support, etc... And yes, even a ratings system can be abused (look at how some use thread ratings here). However it (and plenty of other options) would be great to explore. here would be my suggestion for the poll: Simple directory listing categorized by product (no ratings, discussions, etc...) Enhanced directory listing categorized by product (ratings, no discussions) Thread style discussions categorized by product Simple directory listing categorized by company (no ratings, discussions, etc...) Enhanced directory listing categorized by company(ratings, no discussions) Thread style discussions categorized by company Those are just to throw the idea out. Yes, some may be redundant - however its worth discussing. Some may only want to see a directory of companies. Me? I prefer listings of products (most people will be looking for a certain functionality, not company). Ultimately its Jelsoft that will decide if its done and how to do it, however it could be a beneficial discussion to have regardless. Lets get more ideas on the final poll before it gets posted please
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#119
11-23-2005, 01:11 PM
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Revan - You obviously are the one here who has misunderstood everything - My own personal opinions are that something like that would be good but I am fearful of it destroying what sense of community we have left here, something these threads have already proven is at risk... Secondly - Just because you state that they'd have nothing to do with vBulletin.org does not make it so; We already get several threads a week about another product relating to vBulletin not working, asking for support, or just bad-mouthing the author of it... Do you honestly think that would stop just because we say it isn't anything to do with us? We already say what currently goes on is nothing to do with us; We already say not to post questions in release forums; We already ask people to search for mods and hacks and ask the hack author if they will port to 3.5 instead of creating a thread about if first, but they still do not listen... By having links here people will assume that this site has a level or responsibility and connection to any site listed, and as such these kinds of misplaced threads will increase in quantity... Feel free to start another poll about this guys, with more diverse options for every eventuality, not just those which suit your personal side of the arguement... And again, for a final point here - Revan, I've been discussing this before you got involved, publically and in private accross many mediums (not just limited to vB.org), and the consensus is that in a perfect world that idea that you have annoyingly (  ) repeated has been suggested numerous times... It's not that I don't get it, I really do...What you forget is that while you can sit there and back your idea because it's the best thing since sliced bread, I cannot - I, like every other staff member here, have to look at the bigger picture, and examine every possible outcome that such a change could cause... So please - Don't try and insult me for trying to make things clearer for those readers who don't understand what this is about, and for also covering all bases and doing my job here... Chris |
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#120
11-23-2005, 01:19 PM
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What doesn't sound right about that statement?
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