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Old 06-02-2006, 09:32 PM
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Are a few people perhaps just a little bitter that they didn't get chosen ?

Anyway, time for me to leave the playground, I have to get some sleep and then catch a plane to Spain. See you all in a week or so. Remember that playtime ends when the bell sounds .....
Heh. Not at all. I said it before and i'll say it again. The second i heard about this, i pmed the admins willing to help and even pmed brad letting him know what i am capable of. I was and still am willing to help out. However, me not being chosen yet/at all is honestly the least of my worries. I and a few others just felt that some people can do a better job and wanted to know why those people are not given the chance.
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Old 06-02-2006, 09:33 PM
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In your opinion

Are a few people perhaps just a little bitter that they didn't get chosen ?

Anyway, time for me to leave the playground, I have to get some sleep and then catch a plane to Spain. See you all in a week or so. Remember that playtime ends when the bell sounds .....
Paul, why do you have to be condescending? Nevertheless, have a nice trip
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Old 06-02-2006, 09:33 PM
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No they aren't. A design HAS to be functional. Imagine a building design with no doors, windows or elevators.
Wow. Another irrelevant analogy. The building design will have all of that included. However, it is not the designer's job to build it.
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Old 06-02-2006, 09:37 PM
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Wow. Another irrelevant analogy. The building design will have all of that included. However, it is not the designer's job to build it.
But it has to be a functional design. The building has to hold up under stress, and a million other things. It has to have the right number of doors and elevators for the expected number of people using it. It has to have enough bathrooms, etc. etc...

Design isn't just pictures. It's usability, standards, knowing what do with CSS and what to do with graphics. Did you know those nice little rounded tabs for v3Arcade are done completely with css?

Call it 'bragging' if you want, but this is what I've done for a living for 20+ years, and I do know what I am talking about.
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Old 06-02-2006, 09:38 PM
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But it has to be a functional design. The building has to hold up under stress, and a million other things. It has to have the right number of doors and elevators for the expected number of people using it. It has to have enough bathrooms, etc. etc...

Design isn't just pictures. It's usability, standards, knowing what do with CSS and what to do with graphics. Did you know those nice little rounded tabs for v3Arcade are done completely with css?

Call it 'bragging' if you want, but this is what I've done for a living for 20+ years, and I do know what I am talking about.
They put their design together. Yes, they take all of that into consideration. However, the bottom line is that they do not build it. It doesn't take years of experience to understand that, just some common sense. Now, lets move on from the question of "what makes a designer".

Anyways, i will be gone for a bit. All of this talk has made me hungry
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Old 06-02-2006, 09:40 PM
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No they aren't. A design HAS to be functional. Imagine a building design with no doors, windows or elevators.
No, that's called, my old apartment.
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No, that's called, my old apartment.
Prison?
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Prison?
He did his time. Give the poor felon a chance, will you please? :cross-eyed:
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But it has to be a functional design. The building has to hold up under stress, and a million other things. It has to have the right number of doors and elevators for the expected number of people using it. It has to have enough bathrooms, etc. etc...

Design isn't just pictures. It's usability, standards, knowing what do with CSS and what to do with graphics. Did you know those nice little rounded tabs for v3Arcade are done completely with css?

Call it 'bragging' if you want, but this is what I've done for a living for 20+ years, and I do know what I am talking about.
I don't see how what you are talking about has anything to do with the topic - If I remember correctly, it is not about deciding what the functions of coders and designers should be.
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Old 06-02-2006, 09:44 PM
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I don't see how what you are talking about has anything to do with the topic - If I remember correctly, it is not about allocating the functions of coders and designers.
But, it got off on a tangent of qualifications, and I was addressing that.

As for the original topic of the thread, voting on staff, I've seen many boards try it, and very few succeed. It often becomes a popularity contest with members infighting and 'campaigning' and has little to do with who is best of the job.
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