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See this funny (sad?) video clip. It doesn't look like they're collecting bread and water.

http://www.zippyvideos.com/891102377...n-walmart/256k
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Old 09-04-2005, 11:40 AM
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FYI... The land on which the Wal-Mart in New Orleans/St. Bernard parish sits (floats) is owned by a foundation that is run by members of my family. What the news didn't tell you about the Wal-Mart IN THAT CLIP YOU POSTED is that they OPENED THEIR DOORS to the crowds, and said "take what you need." Then the news crews all filmed it and not a single one reported that the "looters" were INVITED IN TO TAKE WHAT THEY NEEDED since the merchandise was already water damaged!

It really pi**es me off that the press would rather show films of the "looting," than tell you that the people were ALLOWED in to that wal-mart!!!
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You got that right Yo...people are too easily led by the biased liberal media outlets and the left in general that's sole purpose in life now is to do whatever possible to bring down GW Bush even to the detriment of this country. You wonder why there is a gas crisis? (aside from the fact that Katrina has shut down refinerys and the ability to supply fuel)...ask the environmental whackos and the left in general that has prevented a refinery from being built in this country for 30 years as well as no oil exploration...and people wonder why we are dependant on others for fuel! Another thing that is so sad is that most of those poor souls affected in New Orleans by this disaster were poor, welfare dependant people who's lives have been ruined by total dependency on welfare to the point when they needed some skills to survive, they had none.
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FYI... The land on which the Wal-Mart in New Orleans/St. Bernard parish sits (floats) is owned by a foundation that is run by members of my family. What the news didn't tell you about the Wal-Mart IN THAT CLIP YOU POSTED is that they OPENED THEIR DOORS to the crowds, and said "take what you need." Then the news crews all filmed it and not a single one reported that the "looters" were INVITED IN TO TAKE WHAT THEY NEEDED since the merchandise was already water damaged!

It really pi**es me off that the press would rather show films of the "looting," than tell you that the people were ALLOWED in to that wal-mart!!!
Do you have any evidence to back up this outlandish claim?

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Another thing that is so sad is that most of those poor souls affected in New Orleans by this disaster were poor, welfare dependant people who's lives have been ruined by total dependency on welfare to the point when they needed some skills to survive, they had none.
Of course, some hardship causes these "poor souls" to loot, rape, kill, attack hospitals, shoot at rescuers, etc. It seems extreme circumstances bring out the best in some, and the worst in others. The latter holds true for some of the inhabitants of New Orleans.
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There's a fuel crisis not for political reasons, but because, you know, there's only so much oil in the world. I could make many clever yet offensive metaphors on what the US needs to do to stop using freaking oil for everything.
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There's a fuel crisis not for political reasons, but because, you know, there's only so much oil in the world. I could make many clever yet offensive metaphors on what the US needs to do to stop using freaking oil for everything.
It is so cliche and popular to blame the government always for everything. But who put the government in power in the first place? The voters! This was a natural disaster, and I personally observed George Bush's impassioned plea to the inhabitants of New Orleans to leave the city before the hurricane struck... but many just didn't want to listen. Hurricanes strike the US every year, and no-one had any clue this time it would be the big one. It is just that - a natural disaster. No-one is immune to those...
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Do you have any evidence to back up this outlandish claim?
The Wal-MArt land is leased by the Meraux Foundation. The head of that foundation is a family member. Believe me, I am in touch with what happened there. Call me a liar if you want, but I know what happened. The reporter on the MSNBC clip even says "The people here say they were told it was OK," and they were!
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Of course, some hardship causes these "poor souls" to loot, rape, kill, attack hospitals, shoot at rescuers, etc. It seems extreme circumstances bring out the best in some, and the worst in others. The latter holds true for some of the inhabitants of New Orleans.
Don't believe everything you hear on FOX news.

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It is so cliche and popular to blame the government always for everything. But who put the government in power in the first place? The voters! This was a natural disaster, and I personally observed George Bush's impassioned plea to the inhabitants of New Orleans to leave the city before the hurricane struck... but many just didn't want to listen. Hurricanes strike the US every year, and no-one had any clue this time it would be the big one. It is just that - a natural disaster. No-one is immune to those...
THOUSANDS of families didn't have the MEANS to leave! Sure it is easy to tell poor people with no money to their name to leave their home, but until you provide a MEANS for those to be able to leave, and a place for them to go, then that "impassioned plea" is useless. It is easy to blame the victims, but that is not the right thing to do.
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It wasn't a natural disaster... there would be no problems if the levees (which were supposed to be built stronger by 1975 by a bill passed in 1965...) weren't weak.
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The Wal-MArt land is leased by the Meraux Foundation. The head of that foundation is a family member. Believe me, I am in touch with what happened there. Call me a liar if you want, but I know what happened. The reporter on the MSNBC clip even says "The people here say they were told it was OK," and they were!
This is no proof or evidence.

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Don't believe everything you hear on FOX news.
I believe what my eyes see on CNN, Sky, Fox, BBC, etc etc... unless they were doctored video clips, LOL.


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THOUSANDS of families didn't have the MEANS to leave! Sure it is easy to tell poor people with no money to their name to leave their home, but until you provide a MEANS for those to be able to leave, and a place for them to go, then that "impassioned plea" is useless. It is easy to blame the victims, but that is not the right thing to do.
I do not call a criminal a "victim". Of course, I am not saying all are criminals. But a worrying percentage of them indeed were - from day one.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4213214.stm

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Survivors reveal Superdome horror

The bedraggled crowds may have left the Superdome, but the dead remain where they fell.
Tired, hungry and traumatised by days spent under the damaged roof a once-gleaming football stadium, the refugees of New Orleans have spoken of a nightmarish week living among the crazed and the desperate.

Stories of rape, murder and suicide have emerged.
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Amid the filth and the crime, some snapped.

"One guy jumped off a balcony," said Charles Womack, a 30-year-old roofer who was beaten and injured during his time at the Superdome.

"I saw him do it. He was talking to a lady about it. He said it reminded him of the war and he couldn't leave."
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"A young lady was being raped and stabbed.

"And the sounds of her screaming got to this man and so he ran out into the street to get help from troops, to try to flag down a passing truck of them.

"He jumped up on the truck's windscreen and they shot him dead."
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"There is rapes going on here. Women cannot go to the bathroom without men. They are raping them and slitting their throats," she told Reuters.

Rotting

Inside the Superdome, a National Guard soldier charged with keeping order confirmed the brutal reality of life after Katrina.

"We found a young girl raped and killed in the bathroom. Then the crowd got the man and they beat him to death."


National Guardsmen arrested those suspected of causing trouble
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It is so cliche and popular to blame the government always for everything. But who put the government in power in the first place? The voters! This was a natural disaster, and I personally observed George Bush's impassioned plea to the inhabitants of New Orleans to leave the city before the hurricane struck... but many just didn't want to listen. Hurricanes strike the US every year, and no-one had any clue this time it would be the big one. It is just that - a natural disaster. No-one is immune to those...
Yea it is popular to blame the gov, or "at-least" in this case its proper to, if you had been following the news casts since katrina hit, youd notice a drastic change in bush's reaction to the situation.At first was something of that it wasnt a major crisis at all(This is why help was so late to arrive, as NG wasnt dispatched yet) to that of this is National crisis and that all attention needs to be deverted or something like that, all in one week, ill try and find the clip that was on cnn.
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