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Old 08-31-2004, 09:49 PM
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uploading music to use in your jukebox isnt illegal is it? i mean they are none downloadable only streamed so technically it is a radio which isnt illegal.

anyway one of my "members" was annoying everybody else, and got himself banned, then comes back, gets banned again, and then the same again.

so he then goes and snitches saying we are uploading copyrighted files for use for illegal download, yet the only files we uploaded are music for the jukebox
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Old 08-31-2004, 10:39 PM
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Depends if you're using .mp3 copies, or .mid interpretations..

If you're using .mp3, or any similarly "real" format (.wma, .mpc, .ogg) of the tracks in your jukebox that you haven't received permission to use is deemed as illegal. Most .mid interpretations are free of copyright, however this is not the case with all of them.
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Old 09-01-2004, 12:39 AM
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oh.. well thats news to me :-\
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Old 09-01-2004, 02:29 AM
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uploading music to use in your jukebox isnt illegal is it? i mean they are none downloadable only streamed so technically it is a radio which isnt illegal.

anyway one of my "members" was annoying everybody else, and got himself banned, then comes back, gets banned again, and then the same again.

so he then goes and snitches saying we are uploading copyrighted files for use for illegal download, yet the only files we uploaded are music for the jukebox
It is illegal if you don't have permission to use the music contained in the files and you have not paid royalties to broadcast it. By hosting the files and playing it to your users, you are breaching copyright unless you pay a license fee/ royalties. There are case law on this.

For example, a doctor had to stop playing music in his surgery waiting room because it was found that he had to pay royalties to the musician whose music was being played. Ridiculous? Yes. But it's the law. [This was an Australian case - not sure about US law but since we share the same international IP treaties, I guess it would be similar if not the same].
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thats not illegal in the UK though.

i know plenty of UK websites, that have jukeboxes and dont get permission, because they dont it.

and im from the UK so thats why its news to me lol
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The copyright laws are the same in the United Kindom, wreck.
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thats not illegal in the UK though.

i know plenty of UK websites, that have jukeboxes and dont get permission, because they dont it.

and im from the UK so thats why its news to me lol
Considering that the UK AFAIK is a signatory of the TRIPS treaty, I think the same law applies. Check your local legislation to confirm.
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