Usually i do well when working in vb but with vb 4 i am at a learning curve. I want to create a vb3 feel with different color columns for each heading. I have posted a picture. Everything works fine til i have subforums show and then the background images do not go all way down. I have a looked and look and still stumped. I am not sure if just CSS or what. Any help will be apprecated. Vb 3 was so much easier to code