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Old 11-14-2009, 04:37 PM
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I love Vbulletin 4 allready do you

I always run a "true" copy of my online sites on local machines, so i got the identical backup.
Now i tryed installing the entire PCsuite 4 on a couple, SUCCES.

Ive read alot of critics on vbulletin.com, but its a beta and its volunter to try out the beta
if you preordered.

Most of the issues ive had, ive been able to work around, and i must say sofar i like it.
The CMS feature can be overwhelming, and not that logic to navigate around as admin.
But been doing it for a couple of days now, and i gotta say. Practice makes it better.

User end, its fine and the CMS problems in general appear to be most admin side of the system.
So i am confident that it will be a succes.

The forum well, changes i think is minimal, and haveing a hell of a time trying to skin vb4,
well atleast compared to vb2 and vb3.

In any case how do you feel about Vb4 and vb4 pcsuite ? if you had the chance to try and
play wit it ofcourse.
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Old 11-14-2009, 04:42 PM
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If you are installing a forum from new, yes, I think that once the bugs are ironed out and it goes gold, then it will be good product to install and use.

If you have an existing, customised, 3.x site then not so good, unless you want to lose a lot of your customisations (both style & functionality).
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Old 11-14-2009, 07:59 PM
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If you have an existing, customised, 3.x site then not so good, unless you want to lose a lot of your customisations (both style & functionality).
Thanks for this info, think i will give it a miss
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Old 11-14-2009, 10:44 PM
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I installed it yesterday and I am looking at it before it goes anywhere near live. So far it looks nice but i have several issues with fonts and text not lining up correctly. Also, i have loads of adons in my forum (chat box, arcade, flashchat etc) none of which currently work with the new version.
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Old 11-15-2009, 12:08 AM
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I also liked the new vb4 publishing suite and on my sites i also code custom frontends. the problem is that i think vb4 cms's content handling at the backend side is a bit bloated. there is cms_article,cms_node and cms_nodeinfo.

To read a simple article from the db, 3 different queries on 3 different tables should run. i mean to get the latest articles:

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  • $query=$this->db->from('cms_node')->select('nodeid,contentid')->orderby('nodeid','DESC')->get();
  • $query=$this->db->from('cms_nodeinfo')->select('title','viewcount','associatedthreadid' )->where('nodeid',$id)->get();
  • $query=$this->db->from('cms_article')->select('contentid','pagetext','previewimage','ima gewidth','imageheight')->where('contentid',$id)->get();
i think this explains why cms runs a hundred queries for the front page,thanks to caching we don't feel that much but it's still a conceptual issue.
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Old 11-15-2009, 08:06 AM
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If you are installing a forum from new, yes, I think that once the bugs are ironed out and it goes gold, then it will be good product to install and use.

If you have an existing, customised, 3.x site then not so good, unless you want to lose a lot of your customisations (both style & functionality).
This is the most accurate statement I've seen. I think the final product will be excellent. Unfortunately my license expired and the only renew option I saw was to upgrade. So I'm stuck with a board with no mods for awhile. It will be a long couple months but will pay off in the end with a better product.
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Old 11-15-2009, 08:23 AM
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My forum still has a limited number of users and posts, that's why I upgraded to the beta 3.

The upgrade has a lot of errors, but it's fun to play with vb4.
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If you are installing a forum from new, yes, I think that once the bugs are ironed out and it goes gold, then it will be good product to install and use.
approximate for Gold release date????
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approximate for Gold release date????
As mentioned by Ray and co. many other times before, "by the end of the year". Note that this is a goal only.
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I love Vbulletin 4 allready do you
i cant stand it one bit. but good luck to those whom like it
personal choice of course.
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