Paid Requests Simply not working

[lasto]

So what should we do until there is a feedback system?
We strongly recommend posting a follow up if you have posted a Service Request. Simply provide a follow up post with the name of the member who took the request, and if you where satisfied with the result. Please do so if you had a positive or a negative experience.

PS Long slanderous posts as a response to the Service Request will also not be allowed, so keep the feedback short and to the point please.

Its simply not working - KK people get ripped off and then reply back to the orginal thread with the name of the person who ripped them off.Is that it - they get away scottfree because i do not see anything else in place to bring these people to account.
If you get ripped off you cannot even get your money back from paypal because the other side just says they provided `Virtual Goods` and thats the end of the dispute.
We need something else - if not then paid requests should be removed till you can come up with a more sensible approach as vbulletin.org is being used to rip members off and nothing is being done to stop it.(you do say do your research but most people dont like to complain about how a transaction went and will simply forget about it - I nearly got banned before because i complained about a member who ripped me off and i would`nt let it go).
Also with the amount of complaints about this situation over the yrs you would think,you would of implemented a better Feedback solution to this but no - nothing is done yet again and every person who posts a paid request is left at the hands of all those who are there to try and rip them off.

Protect your members and show them that you will not allow this sort of behaviour to go unpunished.

Ive been ripped off twice now and im serious about jacking it all in now because it gets to the point where u cant trust no one these days.

[iogames]

Tell me about it! Months waiting for a Coder... none reliable so far

[Beav`]

I'm surprised this site recommends paying at least 50% deposit, and moreso that people are so prepared to pay upfront to complete strangers based on trust. I agree there should be some kind of feedback system for it though. If you provide potential scammers with a platform to rip people off, you should take an active role in making it as safe as possibe.

[Shelley_c]

Your Intentions are prity much honourable, but the way you are going about it is seriously flawed. Why is it took you till now to bring this up? I'll answer that one for you, because it's prity much obvious. You were scammed twice and you now want to see some kind of feedback system implement, a system that better protects it's members both buyers and sellers. What makes you think that other people will back you up or follow your motivation for a better system? I'll tell you, it will take them to accomodate your way of thinking when they get scammed themselves.

Jelsoft don't want a feedback system, and, they will not accomodate your request. Yeah.... they want the luxuries of a paid area but they don't want the hassle of disgruntled buyers/sellers posting negative remarks which makes this site look bad and cause them more work dealing with arguments etc. It's prity much common sense to implement a feedback system/rating system for anything paid or when hard cash is transfering between two parties, realize this, if they haven't done it now, it will never happen... and anything you say will only be ignored and (yes I'll say it again) laughed at by the powers that be.

Why have you posted this in the Community lounge? This shows that your not ready to confront the people that run this site and explain why you feel this way. It's showing that you are not being committed and standing by what you believe would be the right features to implement in such a system so buyers are aware of the sammers that prey here.

That said, I haven't been scammed but i whole heartely agree with your recommendations what needs implementing with regards to the paid area. This thread should be in the suggestions & feedback area ot here. So what if you get an infraction, if your not ready to stand by the suggestions you want to be implemented don't expect others to and I say all that with love.

[lasto]

Originally Posted by Shelley_c

Your Intentions are prity much honourable, but the way you are going about it is seriously flawed. Why is it took you till now to bring this up? I'll answer that one for you, because it's prity much obvious. You were scammed twice and you now want to see some kind of feedback system implement, a system that better protects it's members both buyers and sellers. What makes you think that other people will back you up or follow your motivation for a better system? I'll tell you, it will take them to accomodate your way of thinking when they get scammed themselves.

Jelsoft don't want a feedback system, and, they will not accomodate your request. Yeah.... they want the luxuries of a paid area but they don't want the hassle of disgruntled buyers/sellers posting negative remarks which makes this site look bad and cause them more work dealing with arguments etc. It's prity much common sense to implement a feedback system/rating system for anything paid or when hard cash is transfering between two parties, realize this, if they haven't done it now, it will never happen... and anything you say will only be ignored and (yes I'll say it again) laughed at by the powers that be.

Why have you posted this in the Community lounge? This shows that your not ready to confront the people that run this site and explain why you feel this way. It's showing that you are not being committed and standing by what you believe would be the right features to implement in such a system so buyers are aware of the sammers that prey here.

That said, I haven't been scammed but i whole heartely agree with your recommendations what needs implementing with regards to the paid area. This thread should be in the suggestions & feedback area ot here. So what if you get an infraction, if your not ready to stand by the suggestions you want to be implemented don't expect others to and I say all that with love.

I brought the same subject up last time when i got scammed - just do a search for my posts and u will see its all there.Ive had threads deleted or posts edited because of my views so that is the main reason ive refrained from naming names in this thread.
Also the reason ive brought this up now is because of this thread : https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=190461
If i say anything out of that thread then it will simply be removed or the thread closed.So on one hand i have a legit excuse to moan but on the other i do not have the platform to do it on.I think because they have a paid requests section on here they have to decide to stand up for their members and try to resolve any problems that may arise or remove the section till something can be put in place to accomodate both sides.
I know this board does not make any money from the paid requests section but someone certainly is and i would love to know how many people have actually been ripped off because these are not minor occurances they are happening all the time on here.

[Dean C]

Look, how hard is it to ask for references. When you got scammed did you ask for 3 references and did you follow up on those three references? I bet 99% of the people who post paid requests here don't even do that.

[Gio~Logist]

I've said this day in and day out, do your homework. Check their profiles and see what they're about, make sure they're credible. If they have a website, check that out too. Ask them for references.

We have a lot of programmers here, but it's knowing how to seperate the real from the fake. Make sure the person you hire is equipped for the job (just because someone has a "coder" title, doesn't mean they can code every aspect of a php script). Also, make sure the price is realistic. If you're getting work for a few bucks and get scammed, don't be surprised. If you get charged a ridiculous amount from someone with no background, and you get scammed.. don't be surprised.

[lasto]

Dean C and Gio-Logist - its that attitude that makes nothing change around here.
Regardless if done any background checks people will still rip people off.You can talk to someone and they can seem genuine in their commitment to do the job but when it comes to putting it into practise it falls apart at the seam.

The last person to rip me off showed me his website and jobs he had done in the past but it still never stopped him from walking away with $250 of my money.So no amount of research would of helped.

This latest transaction was by way of the pm system on here so all pms are logged but ive even reported it to the admin on here weeks ago when i was getting nowhere and still not had a reply back to this date.

One thing is for sure - if you get ripped off then you on your own.

[iogames]

Originally Posted by Gio~Logist

I've said this day in and day out, do your homework. Check their profiles and see what they're about, make sure they're credible. If they have a website, check that out too. Ask them for references.

We have a lot of programmers here, but it's knowing how to seperate the real from the fake. Make sure the person you hire is equipped for the job (just because someone has a "coder" title, doesn't mean they can code every aspect of a php script). Also, make sure the price is realistic. If you're getting work for a few bucks and get scammed, don't be surprised. If you get charged a ridiculous amount from someone with no background, and you get scammed.. don't be surprised.

Whaaaat!?!?!

I'm still waiting on you after 4 months

[Gio~Logist]

Originally Posted by iogames

Whaaaat!?!?!

I'm still waiting on you after 4 months

I answer several requests a day, manage support for my products, and work for a network of over 40 websites. I can assure you that if i haven't taken on your project yet, it's for the benefit of both of us. Feel free to send me over another message to remind me of the project specs and requirements so that I can try my best to take it on the second I have a chance, or refer you to someone who can take on the job atm.