Hacks should be released in ONE ZIP file please

[Chris M]

Originally Posted by tamarian

For the same reasons I pointed out in the other 2 threads. The pattern now seems to go like this:

Staff decides to do something (usually disabling a stock vB feature, or removing a a hack), then they just do it. Then feedback comes in, then an announcement is posted after the fact saying things will be done this way from now on. If members don't like, 3 things will happen: One mod will say "read the post!", the other will say "We have reasons we cannot tell you" or "what do you really need that for?", and the third will say "We appreciate your opinion, and we may revisit the issue after we upgrade to 3.5"

As for saving Jelsoft bandwidth, despite it being already compressed with Gzip, let me say this: The disk space and bandwidth was initially paid by the founders of the forum, and there are many here who won't mind hosting it. Jelsoft picked it up in order ensure the licensing. Now that it has it and can check the licensing, now it complains about the monthly cost to run it? They can't have it both ways, either let soemoneelse run it and pay for it, or if they prefer to host it to ensure licensing, then they need to pay.

The more they increase control, and decide in the dark about all these issues, and we're just told to do it and "try to understand" without any obvious reason, the more it will driver down the quality of the work people are willing to share.

I know many members don't understand this, for they probably didn't see this pattern, and it only effects developers, but they might be next. They'll be equally outraged if they needed to fill things, or do certain things to download each hack, and being told they have to do it for "undiclosed reasons".

I'm sure you guys mean well, but your are overpolicing this thing to death, and making all authors pay for the sins of of one or two, which is not the right thing to do, period.

Throwing your toys out of the pram won't get this resolved...

Regardless of your objections and countless reasons to continue a losing arguement, the fact remains that for at least until vB.org is upgraded to 3.5 it will enforce this rule

In the meantime, the staff will take into account the feedback they have recieved and make a decision on such - Constantly replying and continuing to pester them will not help you or your cause, nor will it allow them the time to think about it if they have to keep "putting the toys back in the pram"

So calm down, leave it where it is, and trust that they are considering it as they have tried to explain numerous times...

Satan

[tamarian]

Originally Posted by hellsatan

Throwing your toys out of the pram won't get this resolved...

What have you been smoking dude? Who said anything about me throwing my toys out? I love this place too much to do that, otherwise I wouldn't have cared enough to voice my objections to these new changes, and how they are being enforced.

You like to follow blindly and accept undisclosed reasons for changing things etc. be my guest, you're not alone.

[Chris M]

Originally Posted by tamarian

What have you been smoking dude? Who said anything about me throwing my toys out? I love this place too much to do that, otherwise I wouldn't have cared enough to voice my objections to these new changes, and how they are being enforced.

You like to follow blindly and accept undisclosed reasons for changing things etc. be my guest, you're not alone.

Several reasons are not undisclosed - One of them, the main one that should be enough for you, is that the ADMINISTRATORS have decided it would be best...

I'm not following blindly - If you wish to use a tool such as this forum, you have to follow the rules, regardless of your stance for them or not...

You have said several times throughout this thread you are unhappy with the rules - Repeating yourself annoys people...

Satan

[tamarian]

Originally Posted by hellsatan

You have said several times throughout this thread you are unhappy with the rules - Repeating yourself annoys people...

You are mistaken, or unaware of the distinction. The forum rules have not changed yet:

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/rules.php?

My arguments in the last 3 threads are about specific points on changes in the direction and vision of vb.org, and possibly worse changes to come. I am not trying to repeat myself, simply replying to each newly presented argument, such as yours.

This forum started by hack authors who should have a voice. You are entitled to cheerlead these changes as much as you want, and you could care less why they're being done. But I'm entitled to make my objections noted. Deal with it.

[Chris M]

Originally Posted by tamarian

You are mistaken, or unaware of the distinction. The forum rules have not changed yet:

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/rules.php?

My arguments in the last 3 threads are about specific points on changes in the direction and vision of vb.org, and possibly worse changes to come. I am not trying to repeat myself, simply replying to each newly presented argument, such as yours.

This forum started by hack authors who should have a voice. You are entitled to cheerlead these changes as much as you want, and you could care less why they're being done. But I'm entitled to make my objections noted. Deal with it.

I'm not denying your right to make objections noted...

You still argue with me when I'm trying to get you to stop arguing...

You have made them known multiple times within this thread and others - I'm tired of reading a thread and having you repeatedly arguing with staff and other members about points you have already made clear earlier on in the thread...

I don't "care less" about them - I think it is a good idea to have them released in one format...

I'm not mistaken - This is an announcement about a new rule - Just because the rules.php file doesn't reflect this does not mean I am mistaken or you are correct

Now you may have many conspiracy theories about this minor issue leading to the corruption of the world and a dictatorship ran by an online community, I don't care...

Your attitude is very confrontational and I simply believed that getting you to stop and let the issue die was the best idea - Apparently you are more stubborn than I anticipated...

You've made your points, the staff have made theirs - Drop the issue, walk away and see what happens...

Satan

[tamarian]

Originally Posted by hellsatan

I'm tired of reading a thread and having you repeatedly arguing with staff and other members about points you have already made clear earlier on in the thread...

You have the option to unsubscribe.

Now you may have many conspiracy theories about this minor issue leading to the corruption of the world and a dictatorship ran by an online community, I don't care...

That's your mistaken impresison, as I have made no such comparisons. But I think someone did make a reference to politics.

Your attitude is very confrontational and I simply believed that getting you to stop and let the issue die was the best idea - Apparently you are more stubborn than I anticipated...

How does that differ from your attitude? Go get your club

You've made your points, the staff have made theirs - Drop the issue, walk away and see what happens...

I'll try

[Paul M]

I just find it pointless and annoying to have to zip up single files. I have no objection when multiple files are involved. It's also the fact that this request has actually been forced by removing the ability to upload text or php files on any post, not just the first post of hacks - as the saying goes - "a sledgehammer to crack a nut".

[Chris M]

Originally Posted by tamarian

You have the option to unsubscribe.

I don't subscribe to threads - Contrary to beliefs threads can be viewed by looking in a forum not via an email subscription...

Originally Posted by tamarian

That's your mistaken impresison, as I have made no such comparisons. But I think someone did make a reference to politics.

It's called sarcasm...

Originally Posted by tamarian

How does that differ from your attitude? Go get your club

My attitude is a direct result of your continuing wish to argue - Go figure...

Originally Posted by tamarian

I'll try

Trying would involve no longer replying to this thread...

Satan

[Regs]

FWIW,

Erwin did say he was interested in hearing more.

[Chris M]

Originally Posted by Erwin

Feel free to PM me to discuss.

Satan