The ultimate RPG Hack(including battle)

[DestyNova]

Ok, ok, ok I agree with ya entirely but I aint mind to have a hack from zajako anyway that if he still tweak it

[ULTIMATESSJ]

this would be a good idea, if you are going to overwrite the Levels hack by knoman, with the new code, post uninstall instructions for the original level hack, in the hack, then everyones happy

[Hollenthon]

When that thing will be available ?

Sound awesone to me !!!!

[Aerith_Freak]

Originally posted by MrLister
DestyNova: Exactly, but my main concern is not on just this one hack. If this is released and it features everything from other battle systems do you really think that initial programmer will continue to think of great ideas and program them.

Do you think that any programmer will spend weeks and months thinking of new ideas or will most of them sit back and wait for somebody to release it so they can copy it. Just as Firefly I don't publish my website here because if I was there would be another bunch of requests that would get fulfilled and then i would have a few thousand sites looking a bit different with identical features.

Afterlab for example. In my oppinion he made a mistake publishing ffrepublic.com . He gained maybe one or two honest members but 99% of the visitors that come from here are just interested in seeing if they can get somebody to reproduce identical features so their site could also be "cool" and "full of features." Basically he announced his site on vB forums and all he got was a lot of posts in the request forum to duplicate some features. I'm not speaking for him but i'm just saying what i think may be.

You ever heard the saying "great idea's are made to share?"

I'm only 15, but I know a child who's only 11 and is running his own vB. He dreams day in and day out of having a battle system... but no-one ever releases one. Can you imagine the smile on his face when he finds out about this hack?

Great idea's are made to share. The lightbulb, TV etc. The people who invented them didn't keep them to themselves, they sold the idea and made lives happier and in some cases easier.

Like I said before, it may come as a shock to you, but not everyone is a PHP junkie.

So just quit it with the self-centered "I've got a stick up my ass and I'm going to moan because someone's builiding on an original idea" attitude.

The whole new array of new battle systems being made and being released is a good thing. The building on the idea's can then be combined with other idea's to produce even better systems.

So just for 5 seconds stop thinking about yourself, think about the vB public.. what they want.......

I know this probably sounds really offensive but the jerkness of all you PHP junkies lately has been ticking me off.

[Hollenthon]

If that kind of hack will not be overprice, people will buy them, but 300$...

I mean vBulletin is the absolute best damn board in the web, the amount of work to achieve that kind of result must be awesome but the price is not exaggerated, it's reasonable and people buy it.

But 300$ for a hack, vBulletin is even not that expensive.

Just my 2?

And for the people who to it 4 free, they all have my reconnaissance !

[MrLister]

Hollenthon: Heh if vB was even $400 I'd still buy all the licenses i have. It's the best "board" out there, not a portal or a site.


Idea sare made to share but how is it sharing if the original coder never allowed it?

He's the originator. It's not called sharing if you go to the site and duplicate it. Guess how much $ those great ideas you mentioned went to the originator. Do you think he would have shared it and spent all that time so he can have somebody else give out TVs for free?

In regards to the child, I understand what you are saying, and i agree with you but at least get the concensus of the original programmer before duplicating his hack. Imagine the frown on his face when one thousand other websites have the same features he worked so extremly hard for. When I was that I age I would have been happy just owning a vB or running any kind of website, so he should as is have a huge smile on his face. Or he could ask the programmer politely for a copy.

[Hollenthon]

Originally posted by MrLister
Hollenthon: Heh if vB was even $400 I'd still buy all the licenses i have. It's the best "board" out there, not a portal or a site.


Idea sare made to share but how is it sharing if the original coder never allowed it?

He's the originator. It's not called sharing if you go to the site and duplicate it. Guess how much $ those great ideas you mentioned went to the originator. Do you think he would have shared it and spent all that time so he can have somebody else give out TVs for free?

In regards to the child, I understand what you are saying, and i agree with you but at least get the concensus of the original programmer before duplicating his hack. Imagine the frown on his face when one thousand other websites have the same features he worked so extremly hard for. When I was that I age I would have been happy just owning a vB or running any kind of website, so he should as is have a huge smile on his face. Or he could ask the programmer politely for a copy.

If the thing have a reasonable price I have no problem to reward the inventor buy buying the thing. But 300$US, when you live in Canada it represent near 500$

I work in the pharmaceutical business and it's the same problem. Can we allow small company to copy medication who take several years and million to develop ? But in the other hand can we tolerate the outrageous overprice of the new medication ?

Great idea must be share at a reasonable price !

It's all about balance !

[Aerith_Freak]

Originally posted by MrLister
Hollenthon: Heh if vB was even $400 I'd still buy all the licenses i have. It's the best "board" out there, not a portal or a site.


Idea sare made to share but how is it sharing if the original coder never allowed it?

He's the originator. It's not called sharing if you go to the site and duplicate it. Guess how much $ those great ideas you mentioned went to the originator. Do you think he would have shared it and spent all that time so he can have somebody else give out TVs for free?

In regards to the child, I understand what you are saying, and i agree with you but at least get the concensus of the original programmer before duplicating his hack. Imagine the frown on his face when one thousand other websites have the same features he worked so extremly hard for. When I was that I age I would have been happy just owning a vB or running any kind of website, so he should as is have a huge smile on his face. Or he could ask the programmer politely for a copy.

Can I just point out that I never said I was making a battle hack I'm still learning PHP, that stuff is beyond me. Yea I agree that consent should be obtained from the original creator(s) of the battle hacks... but the way you guys are conveying yourselves is that releasing a battle hack is gonna mean the end of the world or something.

[MrLister]

Hehe you're right. I just wanted to at least get others to appriciate the work the initial creator made.

[Hollenthon]

Just to add little more of my 2?

I will take the same analogy that I use before with the pharmaceutical business.

Usually, when a new discover is made, the company have the intellectual property for a certain amount of time, after that amount of time anybody can use the gizmo.

I mean, take a site like Final Fantasy Republic. The have a very strong (I mean very strong) fan base and expertise with their RPG an even if they release their hack for free tomorrow, nobody will be able to achieve what they achieve because they always will be consider like the pioneers.

As long I'm concern, since I run a French base site, I'm not making any competition to anyone

Now, I'm anxiously waiting some news of zajako and his great work !