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e-steki Karma BETA
Version: 1.00, by Lea Verou Lea Verou is offline
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Version: 3.5.4 Rating:
Released: 03-06-2006 Last Update: 03-08-2006 Installs: 24
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New version for 3.6, with a lot more features, bugfixes and better coding!!

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Beware that this is still a BETA. This means, it may have bugs. If you want to help with the beta-testing phase, please mention what happened with this hack (if it works or not, if you encountered any bugs, if everything is ok etc) as detailed as possible.


I used quite a lot code from User Rating 1.0 by tnguy3n for this modification. Then I changed it a lot to fit my needs, and I think it's so changed that it could be released as a separate modification. I also got his permission for this

What does e-steki Karma have that User Rating 1.0 doesn't?
1. When a user votes someone for a second (or third, fourth etc) time, the new vote replaces the old instead of being added. I felt it was more fair this way.
2. There is a complete statistics page, with 7 tables that display various statistics
3. Ratings are from -5 to 5 instead of 1-10 and they are represented by images
4. The Karma of each user displays in the postbit (unless he has it turned off)
5. Users that have the Karma turned off don't count at all for the system. their votes don't count in anything, and the votes others gave them before they turned it off also don't count at all. Those users also, can't see anything that has to do with the karma system anywhere. It's like the karma does not exist for them and they don't exist for the karma. However, if they switch it on again, nothing is lost.
6. Since there are no comments, there is no possibility that the user gets a "you didn't complete all fields" error. In fact, even the phrase for it is removed.
7. The table is not placed where the hack author wants (above the footer in UR1) but where YOU want it (by inserting a small comment in the place that you want it in MEMBERINFO). This, however, means one more template change is involved.
8. There is no field that you should add via the userfield manager. This caused bugs in UR1 as you had to run a query to set all the checkboxes to 1 and new registrants had their karma turned off by default.
9. IP in who rated
10. Although they can't see who voted, they can see if they have rated a user and with what (see screenshot).


Why somebody may prefer User Rating 1.0 over e-steki Karma?
I have removed some of the user rating 1.0 features that I didn't need. Some of you may need them though, so pay a visit to User Rating's thread as well.
1. There are no comments in this hack. Nowhere. I've removed anything that has to do with comments.
2. There is no "anonymous voting". In my site, only admins see who has voted, so it's useless to us.
3. No template changes in UR1.
4. A little bit less queries and plugins (since there are less abilites in certain things) in UR1.
5. The "can rate himself" is off by default.
6. Only admins can see who voted. This is planned to be a usergroup permission in the future though.

Misc features
1. WOL location for stats
2. Fully phrased
3. Usergroup permissions

Why is it a beta?
1. Because the end product is the biggest modification I've worked on and there is a high chance I missed something
2. The permission for "Can view Stats" is not working sometimes.
3. I'm not sure how if the install code is going to give an error on an existing installation of e-steki Karma or UR1.

Planned features
1. Of course, bugfixes
2. Usergroup permission for who can see who voted. (currently only admins can see that.)
3. The stats line in memberinfo wont appear if the user does not have permission to view the stats.
4. Ignore specific usergroups from the karma (such as banned)
5. Suggest your own, as long as they keep the system as fair as possible. My main concern is that the system is fair and democratic, and this is why I made most of the changes.

Don't forget to click INSTALL if you use this or you will be damned to hell

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Old 03-08-2006, 07:20 PM
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michelle, i've updated just now, and now on karma_stats.php i get

Warning: arsort() expects parameter 1 to be array, null given in /karma_stats.php on line 179
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Old 03-08-2006, 07:23 PM
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Darn, I have to put the conditionals b4 the sorting functions...
Injektilo, do you have any votes in the system?
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yep 2 votes
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Do these users have their karma turned on?
Apart from that error does anything show in the statistics?
May I have a link please?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Michelle
Quote:
Originally Posted by vissa
IDEA 1: I've modified some ratings systems (like for photos) so that, for example, if there are more than 3 votes the lowest scored vote gets dropped (or the highest, etc). Or the lowest score gets a boost of one point. So if you have a user with 25 votes and 4.99 score (because of one bad vote) they rank higher than a user with 2 votes at 5.0. This could be customizable somehow.
Very nice, but can you think of an algorithm for that?
I've done it before -- I will look it up, though I'm not sure if it will plug right into your code.

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IDEA 2: The effects/weight of a karma vote could be modified by the voting member's stats in some way (like number of posts, registration date, their karma, etc). This would be a little more like the rep system, but not really because it is always an average with one vote per person. This would be a big change but would be a lot more accurate of "true karma."
Nah, I don't agree with this. It's not fair. For instance, how would you feel if in the elections your vote counted less than the president's?
True it wouldn't be fair if it was an election (and I agree with you in principle), but then you don't have as much voting fraud (hopefully) in a real election. On a forum, certain user's opinions do count more IMHO. If votes couldn't be weighted differently, how about only allowing certain usergroups to vote (or is that already possible?). That way you can keep your newbies from voting (but still allow them to be rated). I'm concerned about people registering multiple accounts just to vote for themselves. If the newbie usergroup wasn't allowed to vote, that would probably prevent it.

Thanks
-vissa
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Old 03-09-2006, 08:01 AM
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True it wouldn't be fair if it was an election (and I agree with you in principle), but then you don't have as much voting fraud (hopefully) in a real election. On a forum, certain users opinions do count more my IMHO. If votes couldn't be weighted differently, how about only allowing certain usergroups to vote (or is that already possible?). That way you can keep your newbies from voting (but still allow them to be rated). I'm concerned about people registering multiple accounts just to vote for themselves. If the newbie usergroup wasn't allowed to vote, that would probably prevent it.

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That's possible already, as I've left the usergroup permission from UR1 but I'm not sure it works, I haven't tested it :ermm:
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For those with the asort warnings try the new karma_stats.php (just updated).
Injektilo, this one is for you
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Hi Guys

I am using Danny's comment system on my 2 boards. The disappearing comment problem was never fixed so I was pointed to the recently added user rating modification by tnguy3n. I was hoping to have avatar pictures next to the comments instead of just the names but then I guess that was scrapped too so now I'm here at this thread since this is the new version or something.

The problem is I don't see any comments in the examples so I wonder if that part was just scrapped also in this new version?

If anyone can help, I'm looking for a comment system that shows avatars and one where the comments don't automatically delete themselves randomly.

Thanks in advance!! Hmmm, maybe I can just use avatarurl or something.
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You're not on the right one she removed it on the update

its USER RATING
that one : https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=109234
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Hi, This looks great in the screen shots and i carn't wait to see it working!

Please look at my profile on my site:
http://www.hoefax.com/beanie

There is nothing showing up on the profile about ratings. I followed the instructions.

Uploaded all the files
imported the product xml
added <!--end rating--> before footer in MEMBERINFO
I couldnt find the code in postbit or postbit_legacy, so i skiped that step
i added the code in modifyoptions

Any ideas as why its not showing up?

All the best,
Beanie
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