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Old 07-26-2002, 12:09 PM
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Vbulletin has spyware installed and this informs Jelsoft were the software is being used. The problem is that the files with this spyware/callback key can be removed.

So therefore it becomes none detectable to VB. If VB introduces and keyfile and check key system were when a copy is downloaded along with a key and then when its installed you need to call VB to get a check key to validate it then this might help slow the rate of warez VB thats going around.

If VB put this check system in all there files then they cannot deleted all the files to get it to work can they.

So if it goes like this:

1) VB downloaded with a number
2) VB installed
3) a check key screen pops up asking for a check key
4) need to call VB or visit there site and get a check key using another licence number issued
5) As part of the license and the way the VB software is written it needs certain files to stay there or it will not run. There files will keep a tab and sent info back to VB.
5) If none of the above works then the VB software just will not work.

I know it will cost VB more to develope but I dont mine paying more and knowing there is no other warez site pirating this great software anymore.

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Old 07-26-2002, 12:23 PM
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Hmmm...

But as FireFly said - Any hacker can get around that easily...

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Old 07-26-2002, 12:38 PM
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Maybe they could release a decoder script, which you can only download from their site, which requires a vaild customer number and password...

Satan
Sure, then it'd take 5 minutes before someone downloaded the decoder, decode all files, remove any callback, post on warez board...

Just face it, you're not going to get away from pirates - no matter how hard you try.
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Old 07-27-2002, 12:50 AM
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Sparkz...you know, we could of all just agreed and noded to the option of embedding this, but you have been figure out ways to get around it, and now if one is put in, people who have been browsing this thread would know how to get by.

And since, the Anime Community has a big protion of these pirated version, and we all know most anime site webmasters now **** about hacking, so that wouldn't of been a problem.

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Old 07-27-2002, 05:30 AM
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I am just being realistic. Your suggestions doesn't make sense at all. It's not like I have been twisting my mind to get around your suggestions - anyone with the least bit of programming knowledge would have said the same.

You want to put crap into the software that renders it useless for some people. I'm not going to install anything that calls mommy everytime I tickle it (ie, someone loads a page).

And I don't want a vBulletin that uses encoded files. One of the reasons I came to vB was because of the ease of adapting it for my purposes.

implementing your suggestions would hurt vBulletin infinitly more than having a problems with pirates (which you would have anyways, it'd just take a day instead of an hour to release it).

Oh, not to mention the pissed off customers like me...
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Old 07-27-2002, 12:57 PM
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It won't do it all the time...here and there, and hey, I didn't say they will, or anything, I just kinda suggested it...

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Old 07-27-2002, 02:23 PM
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And I'm just trying to bash your suggestion to death
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Old 07-27-2002, 02:35 PM
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Im trying to keep it alive...

/me gets pissed at Sparkz bashing attempts.

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Old 07-27-2002, 04:16 PM
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You know, I resisted the urge to chime in on this many times, but DRK, I don't think you fully understand what you're asking or what you are proposing.

Sparkz is correct. How many software programs out there, PHP or not, do you see that aren't available one place or another on the net?

Why would you want to take something that works and something that is gaining in popularity everyday and cut down on one of the nice things about it?

It really is a non issue, anything that Jelsoft puts in to combat piracy will be broken eventually. Look at Microsoft and all the money they put into the XP Activation, it was cracked before it was even released publicy.

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Old 07-27-2002, 04:24 PM
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Hey, these are just ideas, I don't even know how to do this, yet know how it works, I just suggested some ways, which can maybe be used, I didn't tell them to do it, I just stated my opinion about pirated software, and the circulation of it, and came up with a idea, that can be used if wished, you are thinking, that I WANT THIS PUT IN, well something could be done about it, but I don't care if it is or not, Im just sick and tired of seeing this everywhere, and I am sure the dev and everyone here is sick and tired too.

Please try to understand what I am saying next time.

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You know, I resisted the urge to chime in on this many times, but DRK, I don't think you fully understand what you're asking or what you are proposing.
You should of resisted harder then huh

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