modification graveyard problem! gettin real annoyed now

[GoTTi]

Originally Posted by Lynne

You know, there is nothing to stop you from posting uninstall instructions in the thread for the modifications you have installed. If you do that, then when the modification gets moved to the graveyard, or archived, you can search the thread for your posts and find the uninstall instructions. I'm sure the others in the thread will be thankful that you took the time to post them also.

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[Dismounted]

Originally Posted by GoTTi

its a VALID argument, one that deserves the observation and consideration of the staff here.

And we also have valid arguments - you are not the only one with them. Your suggestion of keeping the files on board have been "heard" and have been rebutted by another argument (the law). Reg's idea does sound good in principle, but if the author decides to remove their modifications, why wouldn't they remove those instructions as well?

[Lynne]

Originally Posted by GoTTi

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Do you care to elaborate on that?

Who do you think is better qualified to write good install instructions - a user who has installed the product and has an interest in making sure there are good uninstall instructions OR some user who has never installed the product? I mean seriously, I thought it was a good suggestion. Right after you install the product, just write down what needs to be done to uninstall it. Then just post it in the thread. Why is that a bad suggestion?

[GoTTi]

Originally Posted by Lynne

Do you care to elaborate on that?

Who do you think is better qualified to write good install instructions - a user who has installed the product and has an interest in making sure there are good uninstall instructions OR some user who has never installed the product? I mean seriously, I thought it was a good suggestion. Right after you install the product, just write down what needs to be done to uninstall it. Then just post it in the thread. Why is that a bad suggestion?

well gee, instead of myself sharing the information of uninstall procedure, maybe i should be knida selfish like the person either requesting the mod to goto the graveyard or movign it to the graveyard if there is a exploit or whatever found, not care, and just keep the information to myself? but that would defeat the purpose of my argument that if data goes missing on our end, and a mod is moved to the graveyard, atleast we will know what we as owners and installers of mods need to do to uninstall the thing

Originally Posted by Dismounted

but if the author decides to remove their modifications, why wouldn't they remove those instructions as well?

you havent read this thread have you?

if there are users who have installed a modification, clicked install or whatever, and then say down the line the owner removes it, UNINSTALL information should be provided to those that have either clicked installed, or just in general be posted there.

you know what else i thought of when i was making this post....if a coder releases a mod that is just a plugin, 1 file, then it gets installed, and say a few months or weeks down the line its moved to graveyard, we will forget its just 1 simple plugin and not know if there is anything else there we need to worry about. not all mods are released as zip files and have multiple files in there, alot are just the plugins for import. if we know to just remove the plugin, then that small bit of information goes a long way.

soyou mean that instead of being secured by releasing hacks that only you can manage, you would let any member, coder or not, releasing the instructions in some other post, just to avoid you do delete your stuff pathetically?

we see this on a bunch of sites, they take all the hacks here, and re-release them to avoid being deleted...

we call this PIRACY... sorry but you have no more point in this, you just try to find solutions where there are none...

[Adrian Schneider]

My personal suggestion would be to take responsibility for what you install... test mods before throwing them onto your live site.

[GoTTi]

Originally Posted by nexialys

soyou mean that instead of being secured by releasing hacks that only you can manage, you would let any member, coder or not, releasing the instructions in some other post, just to avoid you do delete your stuff pathetically?

we see this on a bunch of sites, they take all the hacks here, and re-release them to avoid being deleted...

we call this PIRACY... sorry but you have no more point in this, you just try to find solutions where there are none...

what r u talking about?

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Originally Posted by SirAdrian

My personal suggestion would be to take responsibility for what you install... test mods before throwing them onto your live site.

its not about testing. read the thread.

Originally Posted by SirAdrian

My personal suggestion would be to take responsibility for what you install... test mods before throwing them onto your live site.

and keep your site up to date each time you add or update something... not only the core system, but all the hacks you have, they usually update when there is a new version of vB, and they usually get updated when someone find a problem...

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Originally Posted by GoTTi

read the thread.

looks like you did not read any of the official answers, isn't it?

[Lynne]

Originally Posted by GoTTi

well gee, instead of myself sharing the information of uninstall procedure, maybe i should be knida selfish like the person either requesting the mod to goto the graveyard or movign it to the graveyard if there is a exploit or whatever found, not care, and just keep the information to myself? but that would defeat the purpose of my argument that if data goes missing on our end, and a mod is moved to the graveyard, atleast we will know what we as owners and installers of mods need to do to uninstall the thing

You *are* being kinda selfish. You come to this site, download the modifications, and expect other people to do stuff that *you* should have done in the first place - kept track of your modifications and made sure you have good notes regarding each and every one of them. That is *your* responsibility - not ours, not the developers, but *yours*. Take responsibility, Gotti, stop trying to push it off on someone else.

oh, btw, when a mod is found with a security risk, it is NOT moved to the graveyard, it is moved to the quarantine forum where the coder can debug his work without deleting it... looks like you missed the announcement 2 years ago...