vbSEO -- is it worth the price ?

[Okie]

Originally Posted by Loco Macheen

if vbseo goes down for some reason,
wont the links in google that point to your site like www.mysite.com/forums/vbseo-thread-a.html not work ?

if I'm correct ( which i may be wrong ) don't u have to register your site with vbseo or something for the script to work ?
seems like there would have to be allot of trust to spend so much when knowing it could be for nothing if vbseo.com were to disappear :ermm:

loco i know that u have almost 7 Parked Domains to locoforum if u are use vBSEO then make sure all other Parked Domains you have will not work .. people who visit your site from your other domain name will get error page

[Vtec44]

Originally Posted by Loco Macheen

deans mod took about 2 Min's to install
same with the google site-map

I've tried Dean's mod, and it works great. I think the Google Sitemap is a lot more affective, but since they're both free so I'm using both

[BamaStangGuy]

Originally Posted by Loco Macheen

deans mod took about 2 Min's to install
same with the google site-map
these are both free.

It doesnt give me what I want, the control panel to easily change the settings to what I want, the support I need in a timely fashion, remove duplicate pages, among other things.

really the things i don't like about vbseo is one the price obviously, but really more that that is the hidden code.
maybe one of the beta testers or a paying member can answer this..
if vbseo goes down for some reason,
wont the links in google that point to your site like www.mysite.com/forums/vbseo-thread-a.html not work ?

Why do we keep saying beta testers? Am I missing something? This is not beta....

and no if their site goes down, my site will continue to rewrite urls

if I'm correct ( which i may be wrong ) don't u have to register your site with vbseo or something for the script to work ?

You have to verify your license just like with vbulletin

seems like there would have to be allot of trust to spend so much when knowing it could be for nothing if vbseo.com were to disappear :ermm:

My script works whether or not their site is down.

Originally Posted by Okie

loco i know that u have almost 7 Parked Domains to locoforum if u are use vBSEO then make sure all other Parked Domains you have will not work .. people who visit your site from your other domain name will get error page

What the hell are you talking about?

If vbseo goes down, my site does not, my site continues to function and my site continues to rewrite urls.

[joeychgo]

Boofoo thanks for being tolerant. Your right, there is no reason for cursing.


Folks - buy it if you want. I dont think it will hurt you to have it (as far as SEO). I just do not believe it does what it promises.

Most people I have talked to believe that vBSEO wll make their pages 'Search Engine Friendly" and Get them indexed by search engines and get them ranked higher in the google search engine results.

vBSEO's own site says:

By installing vBSEO for your vBulletin forums you should expect to:

• Get more of your forum pages indexed in the major search engines
• Get your pages indexed faster
• Improve your keyword relevancy for all pages
• Prevent possible duplicate content penalties

Yet - in a PM to me at VBW jWard (vBseo) said:

Originally Posted by vBSEO

I have to say I agree with you %100 in the fact that mod_rewrite is not necessary to get pages indexed.

SO the question becomes... Why would he advertise one thing on his site, and then say something completely contridictory in private?



Look - I stand to gain nothing either way. Actually, thats not true. I could support and recommend this hack and be an affilliate and make a commission from the sales. vBseo would probably promote vBulletin Webmaster in return too.

I simply do not believe in this product. I think its overpriced and I think it plays on people's misunderstanding or lack of understanding of Search Engines. Basically, I think the product @ $149 is taking advantage of vBulletin owners who have only a desire for their forums to do better and grow larger, but dont understand search engines.

vBulletin, is just fine out of the box as far as SEO. There are some tweaks that can be made to improve things and further make your site unique, but overall its pretty good out of the box. This product wont enhance your ability to get indexed faster or indexed more. Nobody has provided any proof that it does. I on the other hand have provided alot of evidence to demonstrate that non-vbseo'd can be and are indexed and ranked just fine.

I ask again - someone give me PROOF. Is there anyone here who was poorly ranked on google who is now page 1?

Believe me folks, there is no magic pill. There is not SEO HACK that you can simply plug in and - BAM - your at the top of the search engine results. It just doesnt work that way. SEO isnt an exact science and is ever changing. Now, vBSEO does do some things that are helpful, such as the Google Sitemap, (btw, that hack is why your being indexed more I believe, not the mod rewrite portion) but those are hacks that are free anyway. The mod_rewrite, if your insistant on having it, is available free (Dean C did a good job coding that one)

If you want to know what kinds of things you can do to improve SEO, im more then willing to help people, for free. (Although your welcome to toss $150 at me if you like )

However, I am only going to point you in the right direction, most of the things you need to do to be ranked well in Google and other search engines has more to do with what you do off site or things vBSEO cant do for you, like having good content on your site and an active membership. Brent als made another good point. SEO can only help bring people to your site. If you dont keep them thats on you.

[ConqSoft]

I bought it because I can afford it and the URLs look cool. 'nuff said.

[joeychgo]

Originally Posted by ConqSoft

I bought it because I can afford it and the URLs look cool. 'nuff said.

Thats the most rational argument ive heard yet!

[noppid]

Originally Posted by ConqSoft

I bought it because I can afford it and the URLs look cool. 'nuff said.

But... "Can it core a apple oh chef of the future!?"

[Okie]

Originally Posted by BrentWilson

What the hell are you talking about?

If vbseo goes down, my site does not, my site continues to function and my site continues to rewrite urls.

Originally Posted by Posted at VBSEO

ConqSoft 10-26-2005 10:40 PM

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Site Down; Not Happy; Hopefully vbSEO Team can offer explanation.

I came back to my PC to find that my site wasn't responding, though my AdminCP was working fine. I then find that the vbSEO.com site is also down. I disabled the vbSEO plugin and everything was back to normal on my site.

Am I understanding that the vbSEO plugin is accessing vbSEO.com's site/database for every page load on my site? If so, I must say that this is unacceptable. I do not want the availability of my site to rely on the availability of your site.

kall 10-26-2005 11:06 PM

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I am also rather concerned at this.. it happened to me too.

Michael 10-26-2005 11:22 PM

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What has happened exactly?
I noticed that www.vbseo.com was down, handing me a database error.

kall 10-26-2005 11:27 PM

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In IE, my site returned a 'Page cannot be displayed' error.

In firefox, it just kept on loading forever, never displaying a page.

Michael 10-26-2005 11:49 PM

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I was checking my emails and recieved about 10 of these messages:

Quote:

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Database error in vBulletin 3.5.0:

Invalid SQL:
SELECT * FROM forum WHERE forumid =;

MySQL Error : You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near '' at line 1
Error Number : 1064
Date : Wednesday, October 26th 2005 @ 04:30:14 PM
Script : http://www.staff-lounge.com/forumdisplay.php
Referrer :
IP Address : **.**.***.**
Username : DarkWarriorXII
Classname : vb_database
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Juan Muriente 10-27-2005 12:11 AM

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Conqsoft,

We sent you your registration key for 2.1. However, we should have also sent you the 2.1.1 registration key. Once your key is in place, your forum will not contact our registration server.

PM Sent.

Sniper 10-27-2005 12:11 AM

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I'll second that, if thats the case!


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Originally Posted by ConqSoft
I must say that this is unacceptable. I do not want the availability of my site to rely on the availability of your site.
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know you see this ?


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About Parked Domains if u dont no what Parked Domains it is hard to explain to u .. but here is very short

You have www.yoursite500.com and you have www.yoursite600.com and if u have vBSeo regisiter to www.yoursite500.com then www.yoursite600.com will not work with vBSEO i dont no but that from what i understand from a few user that have vbseo. hope this explain to u good :nervous:

[ConqSoft]

Okie, that was resolved, and wasn't due to their site being down. It was because I didn't have my license number in my config file.

And yes parked domains work fine. Please don't speak about subjects with which you have no experience.

[Boofo]

Originally Posted by ConqSoft

I bought it because I can afford it and the URLs look cool. 'nuff said.

LOL Finally, a voice of truth.