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Description:

This hack provides a gateway to selected usenet groups. The entire usenet group is mirrored locally. Posts submitted locally to mirrored newsgroups will also be sent out to usenet. A single perl script is executed via cron that collects news and posts any outgoing articles. Incoming messages are parsed against customizable spam filters and threaded correctly before being placed in your forums. By default, no personal information is sent to usenet other than the posters username and whatever you have globally configured as a footer and organization. The option does exist for a user to include a custom email to use for usenet posts. After initial installation (which involves creating some new tables, adding a few columns to existing vB tables, and entering the database connection information to the news script) configuration is completed via the vB control panel.
  • See it in action at dBforums.com (usenet forums are at the bottom)
  • Download latest version for vB 2.2.4

Current version is 20020323 for vB2.xx

Current feature list:
  • correct threading of outgoing posts on usenet
  • full control panel integration
  • email notification to usenet replies
  • emoticon translation into vb icons
  • vb code removal or conversion prior to posting to usenet
  • hyperlinked urls in messages
  • color coded, italicized & indented quotes
  • vB style quote to usenet style quote conversions for outgoing posts
  • logging of outgoing posts
  • support for multiple news servers
  • support for seperate footers per forum in outgoing posts
  • multi-language (selectable) handling of quoted MIME printable headers (for all those funny foreign characters)
  • handling of mailing archive groups
  • flexible spam control and replacement variable options for incoming and outgoing messages
  • configurable auto-expire option
  • option for users to show email address in their outgoing usenet posts (may be different than normal one in profile
  • option to enable/disable user signatures on outgoing posts.
  • fully compatible with vB moderation functions
Still to be done:
  • canceling of messages after they have been sent to usenet via control message in accordance with RFC1036.
  • binary attachment support
  • email to PM gateway
Screeshots:
Main Options
More Options
Configuration of Newsgroups
Add New Newsgroups
Spam Control
What an imported usenet article looks like in vB

The latest version of this hack will always be in this first post of the thread.

Before asking questions in this thread, please read all the posts in this thread. If your question goes unanswered, it will probably be because the question has already been answered countless times in this thread.

This hack was created for use on my forums and will only be supported as time permits.


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Old 11-14-2003, 03:03 AM
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The guy is an idiot, and obviously doesn't understand how Usenet works. Tell him to check out Google access to the NG's. They run essentially similar scripts to this. So do some other NG services, but I can't remember them offhand. The biggest one was Deja.com which was bought out by Google. There is essentially no difference in what they do and your script.

In fact there is no real difference between what your script does and a persons individual newsreader, whether that be Agent, Xnews, or whatever. Some people even use Outlook Express, (and wonder why the rest of the group get testy with them when they ask lameass questions - especially in the binary groups where OE isn't suitable). All these clients allow a person to read messages and download files on these servers, and it doesn't matter whether a person uses a client on their own machine, Googles site, or your site.

You might want to look up your newsgroups on Googles' interface, and give him the URLs. (Dunno whether they carry binaries though as I figure that would be too much of a bandwidth load).

Let him threaten Google too and see how far he gets.

Newsgroups are public domain. If he wants his posts to remain only in the 'group' he is posting to then he should join a private mailing list or msn or yahoo group. Usenet works entirely differently and he's just making himself look like an ignorant arsehole.

Tell him to sod off, and don't go worrying about it.

Phoenix
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Old 11-14-2003, 04:49 AM
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Thanks Phoenix, he has everyone in that group in an uproar, they are harrassing the board, phone calling one of the site owners, sending emails, the works.
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He needs to read this Usenet FAQ's as he obviously has a huge misunderstanding about Usenet. There should be other faq's on there to bring him up to speed.

He and his friends are harrassing you - admittedly through ignorance of the situation - and if they look at the TOS of their ISP's they will see that they are committing "internet abuse". ISP's take that very seriously.

If having apraised them of the situation re Usenet, you were to let it be known that you might report them to the abuse department of their ISP's they could lose their internet accounts for their behaviour. You'll be able to find an abuse address in the headers of their posts. You'll probably need to use a proper newsreader for this, as I don't think these scripts show them. I use Gilby's for my board, but I don't think they include that info. (I tend to read the newsgroups with a newreader mainly.)

What it boils down to is that you are not committing any 'abuse' but they are. (I assume you don't spam them, NG's hate that and that's abuse). If your board is just acting as a client and your members are reading, and posting to the NGs you have nothing at all to worry about.

So yes, I'd make them aware of the facts re Usenet and point out that they are the ones committing internet abuse in breach of their ISP's TOS. That might hopefully put a stop to it.

Good luck.

Phoenix
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Old 11-14-2003, 02:38 PM
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Yeah, he obviously needs to.

So now, hes telling everyone to post in their signatures in that newsgroup ( about 10 of them ) to post "This posting is private property and not allowed to be posted on such and such website.
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Old 11-14-2003, 03:19 PM
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LOL the guy is a halfwit. Nobody is posting *anything* to your site. You are merely downloading the newsgroup to your sites server the same way as he downloads the group to his computer. He replies thru his computer, your members reply thru the client of your board. Once posts are on the usenet servers (wherever that may be) nobody can control who gets to download them if they have a feed.

If his ISP decided not to have a newserver anymore (they have to pay for the service) well he'd have to look for a free one or use a service like Google or your site <snerk>

Just point out the facts to him and tell him if he doesn't cut it out not only is he showing himself up to be a fool, but you'll report him for harassment.

He can't win, so don't sweat it.
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Oh, you might want to mess with his head.......

Tell him your posts are not allowed to be posted on his computer anymore, because he's a moron and you find it offensive that he gets to read your stuff. His ISP newsserver gets the feed the same way your site gets the feed. Ask him how he plans to get his ISP to either a)stop carrying the group altogether in case it violates your intellectual property, or b)screen out your posts before they hit his computer. Can't be done can it?

The newsgroup has bugger all to do with his ISP and if he only wants certain sites to see his messages, then he better stop posting to usenet. Posts are archived and every post he's ever made will be available to anyone for years. Heh go to your group on google and use their search function.
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Phoenix, I tell you, you should read all this.

He has a few of the people affiliated with our site thinking that hes going to bring congress down on us.

Personally, I know better, I know what public domain is. I know what goes on in an unmoderated forum.

This is no longer about his point, what this has come down to now is, he just doesnt want to loose the arguement.

Never mind what its about, or what the arguement is about, he simply doesnt not want to loose.

Even if he is completely, and I do mean completely in error.

He actually tried to intimidate us by stating he had breakfast with some "retired NYS Superior
Court Judge". Uh oh, should I snap to or salute?

This guy has bullied people and been so rude to people for so long on that newsgroup, I researched, he is a very rude and mean person.

Now, somone comes in, and finally puts their foot down, and isn't going to budge on his threads and huffings.

He actually thinks he can huff and puff, stir everyone up, and put pressure on a legitamite website to back off of using a legitamite tool.

You know the funniest thing?

The website grew in its first 2 days so far beyond the activity of that newsgroup after years.

That is no lie Phoenix. The website is moving at a pace that far supercedes that NG. And this guy doesnt want the site connected? Did I miss something?!?

This guy is completely ignorant.
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This is no longer about his point, what this has come down to now is, he just doesnt want to loose the arguement.
Oh gawd, one of those 'eh?

Once the others realise he is talking through his arse, and they must do eventually when you are still importing the NG to your sites without incurring any legal wrath, he'll run out of steam.

He's not much different to a troll really and Usenet is full of them. Once you've fed him the facts you can either ignore him or you can join his flame war. You know he can't do anything to you, and most sane people will get that sooner or later no matter how much he bullies them, so you can feel at liberty to let him have it with both barrels if you are so inclined. Take to ridiculing him, that might get him to leave you alone, especially if you get really offensive.

Look on the bright side, once he sees he's getting nowhere he'll give up and he'll never have such power over the others again. Check out the longest running flame war on Usenet. It's been going since there was just AOL and Compuserv and it's still going strong. Your flame war is just a teeny little hiccup in comparison.

Chin up, it'll pass.

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Heh, thanks bro.
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Anyone willing to help me install this hack for a client? I just can't get it to work using their vbulletins including 2.3 and 2.3.2. Can pay some cash by paypal if interested.
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