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Old 07-09-2005, 09:10 PM
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99.98% of the os installs out there will have support for zips in 1 form or another.
You don't get it. Other forms of archives is not acceptable by vb.org under these rules, only zip. Not even gzip, which vb.org uses by default to compress the bandwidht here.

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there are also php programs that will zip files and unzip files for you. stop being so pigheaded. they could have said all programs have to have their own installer in an executable format(exe). now that would have gone against many. but zip is universal.
also i dont know of any company that likes you to work on other projects at work other than what your assigned to do.
last time i checked solaris had zip compression in for along time(unix has it built in longer than windows/mac OSX). dont be an obstructionist just because your panties get pulled up under a wegie. if you could make some valid points then it would suite you case much better. the way it sounds to me you are just some bratty teenagers throwing a tantrum because your not getting your way
You're some peice of work. Not sure how old you are, but thanks for the laugh.
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Old 07-09-2005, 09:14 PM
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omg people if they only allow .zips then people can only upload zips arguing about it wont change the fact.
If you are happy to accept everything you are told to do - without question - then fine, feel free to find another topic. I am not, and have no problem in making my points when I disagree with something.

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the way it sounds to me you are just some bratty teenagers throwing a tantrum because your not getting your way
Whatever. I think my teenage years are long passed. I'm simply not a doormat - if I dislike a decision then I will excercise my right to disagree. Unless, of course, another rule preventing this has been passed .....
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Old 07-09-2005, 09:15 PM
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I don't... Those OSes ship with utilities that are capable of Zipping and Unzipping multiple files as well.

I specifically mentioned Windows in my post because you did. I can ZIP and Unzip files on my webserver which isn't windows based and there was no additional software installed.
I mentioned windows because of your flase assumptions. OS'es ship with archiving tools, not ZIP. vb.org does not accept tgz or gz format.
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Old 07-09-2005, 09:20 PM
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Hmmm... Have worked on Unix/Linux based OSes for over 10 years and never had a problem with ZIP files. Always was able to uncompress without any external utilities or applications. This OSes include Solaris, HP/UX, and AIX among others.

Not making false assumptions, speaking on experience from almost 2 and a half decades of working with computers.
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Old 07-09-2005, 09:33 PM
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Hmmm... Have worked on Unix/Linux based OSes for over 10 years and never had a problem with ZIP files. Always was able to uncompress without any external utilities or applications. This OSes include Solaris, HP/UX, and AIX among others.

Not making false assumptions, speaking on experience from almost 2 and a half decades of working with computers.
Your experience and environemnt don't match that of everyone, but since we both know this is not the reason, I'll stop discussing none Windows computers/environemnts.

You can't have it both ways. In one breath "it's not secrecy", and in another "bandwidth is just one consideration" and the admins clearly stated "cannot disclose the reason". And in one breath "Jelsoft has nothing to do with it" and in another "Jelsoft has to pay for the humongous bandwidth demand".

Let alone the fact vb.org has gzip compression enabled.

If you can't say the reason out loud, don't try to enterpret how companies allow or disallow internet access at work for employees, or how your Linux/Unix server is setup. The silliness of these excuses to avoid posting a single txt or xml files are more obvious than you think.

I have ZIP on my home PC and can manage, I just resent all these new secret policies and changes coming up lately.
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Old 07-09-2005, 10:28 PM
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I don't see why this is a big deal, Just zip the files. As members of vB.org we should all trust both Erwin and Xenon that any new policy that is put into place is for the better of the community.
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Yeah, I wish those pesky dudes down at the United Nations would have done the same thing when Bush wanted to bomb Iraq to bits.

It would have been so much simpler if they would have just trusted America from the start.

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Please don't tell me your comparing Xenon and Erwin to George Bush...please.
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Old 07-09-2005, 11:41 PM
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I don't see why this is a big deal, Just zip the files. As members of vB.org we should all trust both Erwin and Xenon that any new policy that is put into place is for the better of the community.
I truely respect your opinion.

The thing is, many of us where using vB since 1.x and were used to a certain level of honesty and transperancy. Recent decisions by the team raised a lot of alarm bells in many of us. We used to release code on vbulletin.com before vbulletin.org was created. There was mutual respect, and clear understanding why things were done. Recently this has changed. Part of it is the loss of transperancy, and things are chasnged suddenly and you have to live it, and announcements are made after the dead is done. That's bad, but livable. Then, the worst IMHO, is that some of the changes were to addres the possibility that you and me may release code to maliciously explot other members, which I find very offensive (it's another thread), and the possibility that you or me may priate copies (possibly this thread), and I also find that offensive.

As far as I'm concerned, ZIP is a trivial issue. The real issue is these excuses of "undisclose reasons", or the possibility of exploting or pirating. Granted, these thigns happen from a few members out of 10's or thousends, it's just wrong to make everyoen pay the price for such paranoia, and treat the whole community of developers in thsi way. So it's not the ZIP, it's a lot of little things here and there that signal bad things to come, which usually happens when you just accept such changes without even getting an honest answer for them. (bandwidth and employer work policies is not an honest reaosn IMHO)
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Erwin already gave the answer, so please read his post.
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