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Old 07-03-2002, 08:05 PM
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People wouldn't take someone's hack and post it under their name if the person who originally created it would have posted it, if you make a hack it's better to post it as soon as possible and then show friends/people you know about it that way those people you show can't take it if you already have it up.

If you create something and don't want to share it don't get pissed when someone steals it and posts it because it was your own fault that you didn't post it in the first place. But then again I'm just rambling don't listen to me :P

Anyways back to zajako guy or whatever's hack XD

Just wondering but why are the names links, and is there going to be a totally different screen for battling or do you battle in posts? Also will it be text based attacks or do you just pick an attack from a drop down menu or something. I would also like to know how the system of the fights will work, like how much do you take off, I know it's based on your stats above your posts but like how do you know how much you will take off from a regular hit by looking at your stats? Also will the elements, attacks, ma attacks, and whatnot be editable or would we have to do alot of crap to edit them. Last about how long will this take to make it? Because if it's not made soon I'm just going to finish my manual battle system I'm using for my forums..
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Old 07-03-2002, 11:10 PM
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If you create something and don't want to share it don't get pissed when someone steals it and posts it because it was your own fault that you didn't post it in the first place.
Ahhhell no! People like you piss me off. All you want is people to release hacks, and you use them to better your community. That's great, I could care less. But look, my point towards your post is this -- What if I took something off of your forums you made and released it here? Would you say "Oh well it was my fault for not releasing it"? I'd better your thinking if I were you.
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Old 07-04-2002, 05:34 AM
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I totally agree with afterlab on this one.

But if you all wait a month you will have something for your forums
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Old 07-04-2002, 05:39 AM
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Well yes afterlab i totally agree with you on one aspect... i would be upset as well... but for another reason... always advertising your site and talking about your hacks and all... do you seriously think that ppl won't come and want what you have? If you want to keep to yourself then you should keep your profile small not talk this and that and so on... not saying you're wrong in any aspect but that ppl will come... As long as they code it themselves then hands down to them...

btw neo if you need any help i can give you any assistence if needed

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Old 07-04-2002, 01:50 PM
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I would love it for neo to release it if anyone. Well anyways, it's not the coding that matters to me, it's more about the idea.
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Old 07-04-2002, 02:14 PM
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man I would love it if you release this.. I am sure gonna install it.. :P
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Old 07-05-2002, 02:46 AM
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lol this is horrible, i was looking on iBResources, and they are making an RPG Battle System for their forums, and are half way thru it, we can't let them get ahead of us can we!!!, someone release a RPG Battle System

I aint surprise... One of hacker from IBresources gloat at me about that =\ His quote, "VB has nothing crap on RPG battle, we do so convert vb right away!" oh well

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If you create something and don't want to share it don't get pissed when someone steals it and posts it because it was your own fault that you didn't post it in the first place. But then again I'm just rambling don't listen to me :P
It is not ethnical to talk like that. If these hackers don't want to share, then it's their loss (for fame =P)and their choice.I m professional 3D artist, I often provide anyone whatever they request from me, but sometimes I refuse due to some reason so I'm sure that Neo or Afterlab have their own reasons. Also it is reasonable--it is time consuming to make rpg battles or whatever to code it up. I'd love to provide you guys with these RPG hacks, but unfortunately I just learned and have been reading thru Kevin's book and Wrox books lately so I cannot until that time.

And also, features themselves ain't always attracting new members anyway. Look at sitepointforums.com, their forum doesn't have a lot of features, but yet they attract many, many more members than any full loaded of features forum do.

Neo, it will be cool to see what your hack can do =)
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Old 07-05-2002, 03:42 PM
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lol, as long as you can release a separate version of just the battle hack, i'll be more than ahppy. All the HP/MP and stuff I can make by myself but the battle hack i will be HELLA excited.
I am releaceing it as a whole, only because, i have to modify all the hp/mp hacks, however when its done, you can feel free to edit it to how you want your bars and things.


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You want to bet? Go make your site extremly unique. Fill it with features beyond your imagination. Then a few weeks later watch everybody else have it also....

I guess you could use templates as an example. Get yourself a really, extremlly good looking template and then release it. If you don't want to release it, why not get somebody else to release it and get the credit for it?

Doesn't hurt right?
well, i have been working on remodeling my entire vb, let alone making my battle hack original. My new site in devlopment, is more of a site with a backbone of vbulletin with the rest totlay redone. It looks way better than any vb, in my opinion so, ,i don't have to worry bout that.


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Actually no. My battle system (which was up, now taken down for upgrades) consisted of the following:

~ Character/job classes with individual stats like attack, defense, evade, agility, and more.
~ Leveling system by EXP. EXP is earned by damage.
~ Leveling boosts character's status. There are 5 classes and from there, they each can go onto 2 more characters which are higher and more powerful then the original class character.
~ Calculations of damage from items (attack, agility), character (level, attack, agility), enemy's armor (defense, evade, agility), enemy's character (defense, evade, agility, level) and random effects (critical hits, misses).
~ Magic system with over 500 skills. All of which must be learned by using TP (Tactical Points) which is earned randomly within battle.
~ RP (Republic Points), our form of money, given out to the winner of each battle.
~ Fleeing (the person fleeing would lose the battle) feature enabled for players to leave battle.
~ Instant Messenging. You could talk to your opponent within the battle.
~ Battle Ticker. Recent battles would be listed on the forumhome and Battle CP. From there, a link to the battle is provided, in which any user can view the battle in live action.

And I actually don't care whatever happens to this hack. I just don't understand why anyone can take other's ideas and create a hack and get all credit. Also, that wasn't towards anyone, just an overall perception on many things revolving around here.
i do not see a single original idea on that list. as for credit I have been working on thsi project for a lot longer than i have even mentioned it. I have papers dated back in feburary, so this idea is actualy not to original considering many other sites, also have it. Also, I am doing all the coding on it by myself, thus im not taking anything from you. The fact of the matter is though, I have been too busy to work on this hack due to running my own company that you finished your version first. Does this mean that i should give you credit?? I think not.. The ideas for mine are mine. I just am not anal about it, to the point that i release my hacks i make and share them, and when i do i also go so far as supporting them, rather than just seeing all the errors and not taking responsibility.


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UBB came out with the flat thread system, then vB improved on it... is that bad?

Mercedes made a car, then Ford mass produced the Model T, allowing others to be able to have one.....is that bad?
this is more like taking something from a car like a cup holder and 2 people think of the idea of putting the cup holder in a plane. Then one person, shares this idea, and the other gets angry because the other person is nice.
I just want to point out to every hacker out there. I share my hacks, because these people do pay for them. They buy their vb. They spend at least 85 dollars. I may not get a single cent of that, however, they did pay that, and why not make it if not just a bit more worth while. besides my site does not get enough traffic for me to be stingy with my ideas.


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lol this is horrible, i was looking on iBResources, and they are making an RPG Battle System for their forums, and are half way thru it, we can't let them get ahead of us can we!!!, someone release a RPG Battle System
Im sorry I have been very busy with everything.. I will get cracking on it :}


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People wouldn't take someone's hack and post it under their name if the person who originally created it would have posted it, if you make a hack it's better to post it as soon as possible and then show friends/people you know about it that way those people you show can't take it if you already have it up.

If you create something and don't want to share it don't get pissed when someone steals it and posts it because it was your own fault that you didn't post it in the first place. But then again I'm just rambling don't listen to me :P


Anyways back to zajako guy or whatever's hack XD

Just wondering but why are the names links, and is there going to be a totally different screen for battling or do you battle in posts? Also will it be text based attacks or do you just pick an attack from a drop down menu or something. I would also like to know how the system of the fights will work, like how much do you take off, I know it's based on your stats above your posts but like how do you know how much you will take off from a regular hit by looking at your stats? Also will the elements, attacks, ma attacks, and whatnot be editable or would we have to do alot of crap to edit them. Last about how long will this take to make it? Because if it's not made soon I'm just going to finish my manual battle system I'm using for my forums..
It will be a new screen
it will be buttons and drop downs
All stats and forumlas will be editable in the admin panel in the final version
I hope to have it done within the next month or so, i have been rushed with a ton of ++++ going on, and my life has just been made a lot more difficult.


And as a final note, I am sorry for not responding sooner, i have been very busy, and i am going to try to get craking on this hack..

Thanks for all those supporting me, with the originality complaints, and i just want to clear up, this hack has really been in devo off and on since feburary, however i have been developing the background for it which as i had stated ealir, which is a site that hides 100% of the vb, and works only using the vb engine. So as for originality, he has no room to accuse me of taking his ideas. Not to mention, most of his ideas are from Final fantasy series games anyway. where as mine are actualy based off my game in development called Twisted Fate. Thus the lack of Mp, it is replaced with MA, which is a mystical force with storline in tf. In fact, ill even give you a run down of it since it will be a part of this hack.

MA or mystic aura, is a microscopic substance that is originated from an unknown sorce. This substance reproduces when vibrated, because it gains energy of the motion and thus begins to use the engergy to reproduce. The energy is then used in one of two ways by the person causeing it to vibrate. They can A: Cause it to reproduce and give them more MA in there bar called a Acharge or aura charge. Or, they can use the energy to reproce them and give them element, causeing them to mutate into another substance called a MA Attack. Il give an example of an MA attack..
EX..
The wielder causes the MA to take the element of fire, in which case he throws it at the enemy resulting it to turn to a fireball.

so as you can see, Magic is replace by a much better explained system.. The battle hack which i will refer to as the game, cause thats what it is, an online game, will not go anyfurther than that for storylineing due to the fact anything further is a spolier for my game in devo(for a console system).

Now I plan to get cracking on this system for you guys, and for me. I wil give you some screenshopts and stuff when i get the chance and when i get some more stuff done.
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Old 07-05-2002, 05:26 PM
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Thanks for all those supporting me, with the originality complaints, and i just want to clear up, this hack has really been in devo off and on since feburary, however i have been developing the background for it which as i had stated ealir, which is a site that hides 100% of the vb, and works only using the vb engine. So as for originality, he has no room to accuse me of taking his ideas. Not to mention, most of his ideas are from Final fantasy series games anyway. where as mine are actualy based off my game in development called Twisted Fate. Thus the lack of Mp, it is replaced with MA, which is a mystical force with storline in tf. In fact, ill even give you a run down of it since it will be a part of this hack.

MA or mystic aura, is a microscopic substance that is originated from an unknown sorce. This substance reproduces when vibrated, because it gains energy of the motion and thus begins to use the engergy to reproduce. The energy is then used in one of two ways by the person causeing it to vibrate. They can A: Cause it to reproduce and give them more MA in there bar called a Acharge or aura charge. Or, they can use the energy to reproce them and give them element, causeing them to mutate into another substance called a MA Attack. Il give an example of an MA attack..
EX..
The wielder causes the MA to take the element of fire, in which case he throws it at the enemy resulting it to turn to a fireball.

so as you can see, Magic is replace by a much better explained system.. The battle hack which i will refer to as the game, cause thats what it is, an online game, will not go anyfurther than that for storylineing due to the fact anything further is a spolier for my game in devo(for a console system).

Now I plan to get cracking on this system for you guys, and for me. I wil give you some screenshopts and stuff when i get the chance and when i get some more stuff done.
As I stated in my post at first page, No one (have no absolute right) can claim that it is their idea since it is Final Fantasy's original idea anyway. So I aint care if it is someone's idea since it is not their at first place but I do care that whoever made it (hack, program, ideas, etc..) that can give anyone access to these and can praise about it. Also someone like you code it up and provide then it is YOUR works that I do praise and care about cuz you sweat it out and make it work even if you didnt provide anyone but yourself. It is not easy work but you do it anyway, it mean alots more than just having 'ideas' crap or 'refuse' to share their works with others.

Interesting.. I been study and write the eassy about RPG during I was student at college which professor ask us to research on 'ideas' subject like who starts it, where area it improve or "evolution" etc.. I decide to research RPG cuz it is interesting, it been always fad at whenever era is. I know for sure that Tolken who is starting whole of fantasy ideas, until computer/console invent and then Final Fantasy starts with the ideas of HP, MP, battle system, etc.. (I been research on this for at least 6 months) Yes there are some old rpg game that have some features (hp, mp and some) but battle system? It is Final Fantasy's copyright and sudden every rpg game copy that and "evolution" it to make it look new but it is still based on FF's copyright battle system (Dragon Warrior for example). Final Fantasy do not even whine about it, they re not care period.

zajako, it is really good to have you to code it up and not let anyone to stop you or complain that it is their 'idea' (actually it is still based on Final Fantasy's idea, sorry fact is fact) Keep it up no matter what they think of you or your works, being pioneer and provide to anyone that they can access is somewhat difficult so good job and I know that many of us want that hack so bad. Many thanks =)

Sorry about my english, it is not my first language =P
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Old 07-05-2002, 06:05 PM
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Forget to add, also your ideas of RPG hack is very interesting, I m curious what you can do with that and I cant wait to see your screenshots.

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