My New Thoughts On vBulletin

[New Joe]

Originally Posted by XiTCLUB

vBulletin should have continued with VB4

Yep....

[Paul M]

Discussions on what "should have happened" have been done to death and are not really going to help or change anything.
vBulletin 5 is what it is and IB are not going to go back to developing vBulletin 4, that should be clear to everyone.

[TheLastSuperman]

^ I seriously doubt the links Katie posted will help either, you're all free to "give it a go" though and hope for the best.

As I've said before it can only improve as time goes on, if you don't like how vB5 functions or "feels" then simply run version 4 and customize it how you want.

Think of it this way... many of you are on slightly older version of vB4 regardless correct? (Some of you 3.x) The point being you've heard all the stories from fellow forum owners about heavily customizing their site either with many modifications and/or custom style changes and then when it was time to upgrade it was either a PIA if they were doing it themselves OR $$$ and either way that did not sound too promising so you waited and here you are now, still waiting... Why? If you think about it, 4.2.1 or 4.2.2 are solid and without issues so if you upgrade now there shouldn't be a new version out giving you issues in a month. For example, there will not be a 4.9.1 released if anything perhaps a 4.2.3 so you won't be required to redo this or that because of a huge leap between versions, my point being if you upgrade now there shouldn't be any more updating (customizing) required that will be considered a "be-in-the-way" for many thus preventing them from upgrading. So with all that said you could upgrade to 4.2.1/4.2.2, be solid for a while and simply wait on vB5 until you see the improvement you deem necessary to upgrade.

[katie hunter]

Is this what XF staff does lately --> "This message is awaiting moderator approval, and is invisible to normal visitors." complete censor of any legit reply. Any new post i made is being moderated. I haven't been on XF for quite few month now, like 5 month so far.

Think again before thinking about XF b/c that is how they behave. They will alter the permission placing you in a certain permission group if they find you criticizing them.

http://i.imgur.com/TJGpqQY.png

[TheLastSuperman]

Aye-ya Katie I feel like a Pirate here LOL but ummm the screenshot is a bit much . I say that jokingly because I know you but I'm going to remove it as it's huge and well I dunno perhaps I skipped the part in the thread where we were talking about each side moderating posts but good golly if we start posting like that in here this thread will 100% be derailed imo.

*The link can still be copy/pasted from "Last edited by" info at the bottom of your post for reference.

Edit: How about this, in order to keep a thread open and discussing it in a proper manner let's only discuss competing software IF you are comparing it to vBulletin and your current thoughts on why that does or does not make vBulletin better. I dare say we've slightly gone off topic so be sure to try and stay on topic it can't just be a "OMG vB5 sucks" or anything one sided we want to see good ole' fashioned points, an outline like I did or something that makes people think and helps them decide what to do if they are "lost" .

[katie hunter]

Originally Posted by TheLastSuperman

Aye-ya Katie I feel like a Pirate here LOL but ummm the screenshot is a bit much . I say that jokingly because I know you but I'm going to remove it as it's huge and well I dunno perhaps I skipped the part in the thread where we were talking about each side moderating posts but good golly if we start posting like that in here this thread will 100% be derailed imo.

*The link can still be copy/pasted from "Last edited by" info at the bottom of your post for reference.

I removed it, pasted a link instead of an image : ) an image resizer is needed on vb.org

[TheLastSuperman]

Originally Posted by katie hunter

I removed it, pasted a link instead of an image : ) an image resizer is needed on vb.org

It is??? Sorry running on a 40" monitor here so I only notice the image outside the border a little but I was trying to hint to you as well... what does that have to do with vBulletin?

Ok I'm not using you as an example but I've come to the conclusion that this just can't be discussed properly and it will never be. If anyone has a valid and legitimate question about the software or want to compare it to other softwares please post on vBulletin.com OR in the pre-sales questions here and staff and other members will try to provide as much info as possible for you to make a well-informed decision.

*Please remember that at one point in time vBulletin 4 had quite a few customers not happy with it, it improved to the point it is now which is SOLID so I can only re-iterate that vBulletin 5 will improve too and become solid .

[vbresults]

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[ozzy47]

Yes, this was announced almost a month ago.

[tommythejoat]

Our board was originally set up in 2000 with phpBB and has migrated through a lot of stuff on the way to 4.2.2.

We are pretty happy with 4.2.2 but we wish that the vBulletin community, if not the developers would at least give CKEditor the attention that Sphinx has received. The most serious problem we find on our image intensive site is that new users running Apple and Windows 8 compulsively drag and drop images into posts.

CKEditor has a community just like this one and they, of course, have solved that problem in a number of ways both free and paid but the version of CKEdit in vBulletin is so heavily modified that no one seems willing to tackle installing a "standard" CKEditor and fixing this very annoying image problem.

This is my most glaring example of what it means to lose development support. The world is evolving and vBulletin is not keeping up.

The Facebook and Mobile Suite fiascoes cause us similar pain but it is not as obvious because the customers we do not get are invisible to us.

Since 4.2.2 is so stable and not really subject to change, why doesn't the developer community address these problems more aggressively?