modification graveyard problem! gettin real annoyed now

It is officially the case. The engine update your licensed access each hour, so yes, when your license is ended, your access to the downloads is ended too... you can be aware of that easily, each month we can read here and there some users who ask why they stopped being able to download...

btw, the vision is different from my personal 2¢...

it is more secure to have license verification on a coder's side of things. i would hate to code for non-clients... leechers, pirates... by seeing that the "Paid Services Requests" are filled only by licensed clients is good, because we, as coders, are secured to work for clients, and not working for pirates. ok, that does not protected us from scammers, but hey, we have 1 scammer for 200 clean coders...

btw, why isn't there a debate about this site's status on vb.com, where the guys come from? they are the only one to be able to make a statement on the status of vb.org... beside Marco here, i think nobody can really make a commercial statement on the legit "official" appreciation that everybody know about.

oh, and btw, Shelley, cute avatar!

[Shelley_c]

Originally Posted by nexialys

It is officially the case. The engine update your licensed access each hour, so yes, when your license is ended, your access to the downloads is ended too... you can be aware of that easily, each month we can read here and there some users who ask why they stopped being able to download...

Is that actually a fact? Or are you simply speculating. I won't have access to my own submissions? Support them, whilst the pirates here are able to do as they wish with them and I cannot do anything about it except sit and watch.

To me this benefits only a few select people. I have to pay for a renewal to support my contributions which I provided for free. I call that taking the piss, I've never used vb.com support ticket system so I'm paying for nothing as well as providing (like with thousands of contributors) to this site on the thoughts it was free and not based on access per renewal running out.

Jelsoft know I have a license, what is a renewal got to do with accessing my stuff here when they have my license credentials in their system. This means this site isn't actually free.

I'm assuming this only applies to leased licenses and not owned licenses or does this apply to both?

Id like to be corrected here but this is news to me.

[Dismounted]

Originally Posted by chadi

We're talking solely about graveyard. When a mod is move there, the files should be kept intact for reference purposes. It has nothing to do with overwriting the old version with a new one. Just graveyard itself, with the last uploaded version of the mod.

As stated by those before me, modifications are mainly moved into the graveyard for two reasons:

1. Security Issues
2. Author's Request

On a security issue, we cannot keep these modifications in "circulation". You will have already seen the many threads about how [licensed] members try, but cannot download modifications from the graveyard. Using your suggestion, members will download and install these modifications, therefore opening up their boards to exploits.

Also, you have to understand that we do not own any modifications. The copyright is kept with the author at all times. If the author retracts their permission to allow vBulletin.org (as a distribution medium) to redistribute their modification(s), we must remove these to be able to be downloaded. (IANAL)

Originally Posted by Shelley_c

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AFAIK, as long as you have a valid owned license (expired or otherwise), you will retain your status as "licensed". However, if you have an expired leased license, your status will revert to "unlicensed".

[Shelley_c]

Originally Posted by Dismounted

As stated by those before me, modifications are mainly moved into the graveyard for two reasons:

1. Security Issues
2. Author's Request

On a security issue, we cannot keep these modifications in "circulation". You will have already seen the many threads about how [licensed] members try, but cannot download modifications from the graveyard. Using your suggestion, members will download and install these modifications, therefore opening up their boards to exploits.

Also, you have to understand that we do not own any modifications. The copyright is kept with the author at all times. If the author retracts their permission to allow vBulletin.org (as a distribution medium) to redistribute their modification(s), we must remove these to be able to be downloaded. (IANAL)

AFAIK, as long as you have a valid owned license (expired or otherwise), you will retain your status as "licensed". However, if you have an expired leased license, your status will revert to "unlicensed".

That's not a definite answer Dismounted. I'd appreciate a more concrete answer from someone that does know. My question still stands.

[GoTTi]

Originally Posted by Shelley_c

Exactly what are you saying siradrian. Let's say my license ran out tomorrow I wouldn't have access here (let's say) to support the contributions I released here?

Shelly, if you paid the big bucks for the owned license and the year is up, your still active here. if you have the cheaper license, and a year passes and you dont renew, your access here goes byebye.

[Dismounted]

Originally Posted by Shelley_c

That's not a definite answer Dismounted. I'd appreciate a more concrete answer from someone that does know. My question still stands.

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showpost....45&postcount=6

Concrete enough?

[Shelley_c]

Originally Posted by Dismounted

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showpost....45&postcount=6

Concrete enough?

No. That reply was made 2 years ago dismounted. Amendments could have been made since then. A response from you marco please. I'm guessing (seeing as we all seem to be doing this) that a response is needed by a jelsoft employee rather than volunteers who are doing just that guessing.

[Marco van Herwaarden]

That statement is still correct, nothing has changed regarding license status.


About paying for vB.org/vB.com access: Your purchase includes only 2 things: The use of vBulletin software for the duration of your license, support using the ticket system.

The use of both vB.com & vB.org is free and is not included in the purchase. This does not mean that we will not make certain areas of our forums only available to licensed members.

[Paul M]

Originally Posted by Shelley_c

a response is needed by a jelsoft employee rather than volunteers who are doing just that guessing.

A response from a Jelsoft employee is not needed - no guesswork is involved - your little digs at the staff here are as tiresome as ever. Nothing has changed, if it had then an announcement would have been made.

[GoTTi]

yall wanna educate him on memberships try and take it off my thread here. lets stay on topic.

there has to be a way for you guys as staff to be able to do what we are asking. the files dont have to be deleted off the server is a author deletes it. they can be retained in your DB and viewable by the mods and staff only. so if a mod needs to goto the graveyard, and the author decides to remove it, he wont see the zip file any longer, but you guys will have that zip file in history so you can easily extract it just to see the uninstall information or install information and give us the reversal. its such a easy think to implement that will save us alot of time and headache