Members Helping Members

[Dan]

Originally Posted by Corriewf

How about giving vBCast is own forum like what was agreed on by all the staff here except the one person that ran their mouth to add fuel to the fire, Zach.


We didn't want to start doing BBCast and talk about all the bulletin softwares, as we prefer vbulletin, but after being dragged through the dirt for so long.

I love how we were told to start our own board for a show that is dedicated to your software that we work sooo hard on.

Hmmm.... I think the reason Zachery is rather not happy with you is because that time you called him and impersonated ME and tried to get vBulletin 3.6.x information out of him. I think that's very immature and not worth you getting anything really from Jelsoft.

[Logikos]

I remember hearing about that. teehee

[Daniel]

Thanks for the update. I look forward on seeing things return to normal.

[Wayne Luke]

Originally Posted by joeychgo

Marco - Wayne - The tone and attitude in your posts is a big part of what I think is the problem around here. You just told Noppid to keep his opinions to himself because it doesnt fit in what you want to accomplish.

I said if he was that unhappy, then maybe he should look elsewhere. If there had been a suggestion in his post instead of a personal attack then I would listen.

I honestly don't have any problem with him or anyone else on this site. If something happens, it is not done for personal reasons.

[Brandon Sheley]

I've tried to help out those that I can. and even tho I've used vb almost 2 years now I still don't know 1/2 of what some of the coders know..

all I know is that I'm very appreciative of this site and its resources..

-loco

[akanevsky]

Thanks for the post, hopefully you'll actually bring substantial changes,
cause it's no longer possible to peacefully reside on this site.

[PennylessZ28]

this can be solved if everyone just unzipped their pants, got a ruler and took a picture, then we'd all know who is the biggest prick hehe

[Mosh]

Thanks for saying that Wayne, this site is all about members helping members and that is what a lot of people around here seem to have forgotten.

I said in a previous post (Erwin stepping down) that I have not posted because I did not want to add oil to the flames, there seemed to be no point because the people involved seemed to have forgotten that one fact, that we are a group of people (all of use vB admins) that have come together to help each other out.

One of the reasons I participate here and give a little back too is because of the amount of help and knowledge I have gotten from this site, I only ever use the official site for my updates or occationally to help out a little.

For a while now, things have been spiralling out of control, and fingers are pointing everywhere. What we should be doing in my opinion is seeing what needs to be done to fix it and just fix it, recriminations and fingerpointing do not help at all, we all know what the situation is, what we need to do if fix the problems, and hopefully what Wayne and the staff here have said are followed by positive actions to rectifiy the problems here.

It really should not have gotten to the stage where coders are removing modifications and admins are stepping down, but saying that we need to move forward and do so positively.

I think the finger pointing has had it's day and I for one am fed up of it, we need to move forward from it and get on with making this site what it was a couple of years ago, a place where members help members, and not members demanding things and thinking it is their god given right to have them straight away is also an attitude I would like us all to move away from too.

If a member helps you out, it common courtesy to thank them for the effort they put into helping you out. Also remember if a hack author supports his hack or not the choice is up to them, they have gone to a lot of effort to give to you in the first place, asking nicely for support will get a better response than demanding support and being rude about it.

Conversely, hack authors should not be rude or put down members because they don't know what they are doing (remember we were all newbies once, and not all of us can code), I know it can get frustrating but blowing of members who require help does not help maintain a healthy attitude on these forums and we are here after all to help members out, are we not??? (as well as getting helped out ourselves and forming new friendships and associations).

I think I have used up more than my 2c worth, but have hopefully put me view across on how this forum has nearly lost it primary focus, and that is to help members help themselves and others.

[rjordan]

I have seen some things go on here that I certainly do not agree with by staff and by users. The vB.org/JelSoft team seems to be in here getting things changed. The only people getting hurt now are the people that utilize the modifications here that are being pulled as well as those that have (until now) had a very good outlook on this site and those that are now stirring up more trouble.

Let the process work. Don't be hasty and remove hacks unnecessarily. If you have a problem with how things have happened in the past, PM the issues to the respective persons, but don't rehash problems that have already outlasted their original reason. You will only be doing yourself continued disservice to your own respectability... whether it be staff or otherwise.

(... now I wait for the flames... Bar-B-Que anyone?)

[Kirk Y]

Being a somewhat... challenged PHP user, the help that the community provides myself and others with is what keeps us coming again and again. I complete agree with you Wayne -- and appreciate the update. I'm sure I speak for the rest of the community when I say that we eagerly await the brand-spanking new vB.org.