Regarding the vBHosting Hack

[dieKetzer]

Originally Posted by trafix

I think everythig has been said sooooooo many times that if you deleted all the duplicate arguments the thread would only be 5 pages instead of 22

Give it a break and get a life ..... there is more to vborg than this thread!

but there is no hack that does what this does, and as a result this is the only thread of interest to me. if it doesn't interest you, don't read it.
i've been waiting a very long time for vb3, and now that it's out i see that it still is in the dark ages in regards to moderator empowerment. i want to be able to completely turn over a board to a mod and have them set the colour scheme, set access if its a private forum, post announcements in that forum, and so on. but vb once again elected to overlook this kind of functionality that would be invaluble to a gaming site that hosts clan forums. now gamecrash has written a hack that can do this - finally! - and jelsoft pulls it down just like that with a bs claim of infringement. that's why this is a hot topic and this is why so many people are interested in this thread!

[Xenon]

Argl 22 pages.

Please calm down a bit.

I have not read the entire thread, but something i can definitely say:
This matter is beeing discussed right now. It would not change anything if anyone is saying Jelsoft is right or wrong on this issue. I'm sure Jelsoft will ask it's lawyers, to find out wether this Hack is really breaking the license or not.
Depending on that state, things will continue.

[Stadler]

Originally Posted by SpeedStreet

You don't want every jackass in the world requesting a forum, simply because they want their own little piece of the pie...look how crapped up EZBoard is! If you give people the ability to do the same thing with a sleeker package like vBulletin, you are going to have 8,000 forums per board, with 10 posts per forum!

GameCrash was definitely on the right track, trying to add as much functionality as possible to his hack, but there definitely has to be a line drawn somewhere.

May I frame this? I totally agree with that part. Rather than allowing 'every jackass' to have his own forum which is just the x-th forum about one topic and as a result having for example 20 IT-Forums, where every forum of that kind is covering more or less the same topic is not only totally useless, it would even cluster every forum into tons of small communities in which no one knows about the other one ... what a nightmare. IMHO automation of this should never be allowed, but I don't guess, GameCrash wanted to serve such a pupose in any way.

In short: Allowing misuse of this or similar hacks in a form which is the same or similar to Waynes example should definately be forbidden but not the hack in general.

[Chris|vB]

Just wait!

[lasto]

Originally Posted by trafix

I think everythig has been said sooooooo many times that if you deleted all the duplicate arguments the thread would only be 5 pages instead of 22

Give it a break and get a life ..... there is more to vborg than this thread!

this is hot topical debate and as such has drawn attention from all walks of life on vb.org and other boards.People have come to express their views on what they think on the subject of this hack.Maybe this will have a say in the final decision who knows but to tell people to get a life is not on,as people do have the right to an opinion unless that has been taken away in the LA agreement as well

(thats a joke by the way - notice the smiley )

[high]* lasto is off to find a wife - u did say wife did`nt u trafix[/high]

[trafix]

Originally Posted by lasto

this is hot topical debate and as such has drawn attention from all walks of life on vb.org and other boards.People have come to express their views on what they think on the subject of this hack.Maybe this will have a say in the final decision who knows but to tell people to get a life is not on,as people do have the right to an opinion unless that has been taken away in the LA agreement as well

(thats a joke by the way - notice the smiley )

[high]* lasto is off to find a wife - u did say wife did`nt u trafix[/high]

lol .... wife would be good , but i already have one

Guys dont get me wrong here, im as interested in the outcome as anyone else and i would use the hack if the situation was resolves successfully As i said earlier, i have a copy of the b2 version but i havnt installed it, and wont until i get the final word. Its a great idea and a lot of work has gone into it but there is the 2 main issues that have to be resolved first. aside from all that ...... HACK ON DUDE!

[Gio Takahashi]

vBHosting, an ability to make someone of a "sub Vbulletin", and that anyone can make it? Personally its kinda of a bad idea for Anyone to make it.

Allow moderator to control the section as per compromise, I like that idea better. but thats my 5 yen. I don't feel like saying anymore stuff that has been WAY over SAID already in a mere 2 days.

[Digital_Madness]

I honestly think that this modification is not all that new if you look back at the Moderators having permission to add/remove access masks of users to sub forums thus allowing them to basically admin their own boards. I have a site with several clans/teams and I am sure that more will come that need forum hosting and we supply that at basically whatever costs I cover, thus no one has to contribute if they dont want to so I still cant see how this has crossed that line in the sand that has caused all of this...

Please review this hack and tell me did this also break the lic?

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=28654

James

[ap0c]

Originally Posted by Digital_Madness

I honestly think that this modification is not all that new if you look back at the Moderators having permission to add/remove access masks of users to sub forums thus allowing them to basically admin their own boards. I have a site with several clans/teams and I am sure that more will come that need forum hosting and we supply that at basically whatever costs I cover, thus no one has to contribute if they dont want to so I still cant see how this has crossed that line in the sand that has caused all of this...

Please review this hack and tell me did this also break the lic?

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=28654

James

Moderators having permission to add/remove access masks , not registered users

[nitro]

Theres many VBowners who allready charge other companys for sub forums that they have control over, its been going on for years, infact vb3 in its current raw form with subscribtions makes the whole thing a lot more simpler now.

Dunno perhaps it breaks its own LA

I was thinking of getting a second vb licence to do just this. but now it seems that It may be breaking the LA I wont.

It happens a lot on support forums where, ie software companies sponser or rent a sub forum with in a main site. I think if they was to go after all these the vb licence quantity could reduce by a huge amount.

I fully understand how it breaks the LA to distribute the vb package, but theres many things in the LA that is q2uestionable.

ie. you must not give a third party access to the code without VB team consent.
so there you cannot without consent from vb get a designer to add a style as this would give that designer full access to the admin panel and the ftp where the php is.

You cannot dispose of without consent of VB by way of rent or purchase ?
Well i think legally VB would have to have exceptional grounds to not consent to you selling your licence or even leasing a website that includes avb installation. Therefore they would have to find good reason why a sale or lease was bad to make any legal battle worth while.

One of the main things iv seen licence agreements do is attempt to null an void your statutory rights, in many countries that in itself is illegal and often deems the entire licence or contract null and void.

On a high note anyone read the online nvidia driver download LA ?
If your an international buriness person do not buy a laptop with an nvidia
Travilling internationally with nvidia drivers breaks their LA

Dual booting with windows 2000 and xp.
Not with Nvidia its against their LA no matter if you own both os licences.

Got 2 computers in the house, make sure you dont use the same download to install to both these comps even though the grafic cards may be of different eras, with their LA and unified drivers its against their LA.

Boxed software is the funniest
By opening this software package you agree to the EULA.
errrrm but the box contains the eula infact I may not even get to read it till I start to install.
Please sign this blank piece of paper, Really I wont add bankers draft to it or your house deeds.