vbulletin neighborhoods

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Originally Posted by zsdave

you type too much...
It sounds like you are describing something quite complicated that would actually be a different community system than a bulletin board. From what I read I like your ideas. Maybe not as a vb hack but as a totally new system... Interesting...

Thanks, it really would be interesting, and new system or not, it could potentially revolutionize the online world. As such, the members make the discussions, the topics, and the members make the news. It would be quite versatile and creative, and allow for many new possibilities and creative input.

Perhaps I do type "too much", however, if someone's interested in the idea and willing to make it, the "too much" is better than "too little". It gives them reference writings.

...and as I read your p3tz site, I recognize just how nicely it would work with this hack. Having pets for houses and whatnot...and perhaps they could be integrated to perform a lot more with vbneighborhoods (which, for the record, still needs someone to make it!).

[Trigunflame]

Originally Posted by sabret00the

apparently you can't even brand your subforums with another sites feel and force that without breaking the license agreement, i think it's bollocks but it's what Zachery told me once.

what is intersting though is that you can actually apply hacks to give each individual user license over their experience, you're just not allowed to let them share their experience.

i.e. i could surf your forums in a red theme i made in the usercp with css and as long as it's not an option in the stylechooser or forced in a forum, it's legitmate.

Me having to pay $30 a year in addition to the $160 I payed when I bought Vbulletin "Should Break The License Agreement" or be considered robbery.

[red_baron2000]

nice idea however i also doubt this can be seen by jelsoft as an addition or a hack..

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[Hellspire]

Originally Posted by !!!

Thanks, it really would be interesting, and new system or not, it could potentially revolutionize the online world. As such, the members make the discussions, the topics, and the members make the news. It would be quite versatile and creative, and allow for many new possibilities and creative input.

To this I can only say that your idea is flawed in respects that the "online-world" has already been revolutionalized in that sense. People if they want can create their own forums by either purchasing a good script like vBulletin, can create blogs, or can use a cheap board like phpbb which are free, or use free forum hosting.

Your ideas are spirited but the center of that idea cannot derive from a vbulletin framework because of the leasing bit.

Edit: Friend, the solution has already been found. It is called.. the internet, *gasp*!

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Originally Posted by Hellspire

To this I can only say that your idea is flawed in respects that the "online-world" has already been revolutionalized in that sense. People if they want can create their own forums by either purchasing a good script like vBulletin, can create blogs, or can use a cheap board like phpbb which are free, or use free forum hosting.

Your ideas are spirited but the center of that idea cannot derive from a vbulletin framework because of the leasing bit.

Edit: Friend, the solution has already been found. It is called.. the internet, *gasp*!

Your opinion can be respected, however, I do not know a forum whereby the posts and threads are actually all ordered and promoted by realtime statistics.

There's a huge difference between forums, chat rooms, websites, and search engines. For you to go generalizing and attempting to negate the possilibity of further innovation is incredibly foolish.

People who constantly whine about how things are "already done in a sense" and "WE DON'T NEED ANYTHING NEW" are living in the past and offer quite destructive beliefs. I believe the future holds great things for this world, and so let us not linger like addicts.

[Borgs8472]

You've got a nice concept going, rather than working from the 'neighbourhood' theme and speaking in grand terms, why not work up with bits we've already got working?

Obviously there will be private threads, as well as 'jobs' which are usergroups, you have to have enough post count to get a high paid job, and get to the best forums etc. That's an idea by itself.

If you as admin design the jobs, you can design an appropriate skin in each case, have the 'boss' of that job send you agreed amendments.

A prison is an idea that many boards use to stop spammers already, give that its own theme of course

I know you'd ideally want to automate the process, but really you'd just need several admins on hand to constantly make secondary usergroups.

To make the automatic system you've discussed, you'd have to make it a user (or regular user) power to make their own forum (build/buy a house ), I don't know how to do that for starters.

Getting a user to edit their forums own CSS and images is a seperate task.

When a users builds/buys a house, they automatically start a new secondary use group (you'd have loads of them!) of which they are group leader and can let people join their group/house. Again, that's currently an admin function.

I feel 100 threads in one day with the word 'fire' in should burn the forum to the ground

Unless a fireman comes in who has only the power to remove threads entitled 'fire'!

Okay I'm getting silly here, but this idea needs to be broken down into its component pieces more.

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I agree, and I wish I could give the idea up completely if necessary. However, there does indeed need to be some sort of "promotion"--as you interpreted it, getting a good position.

So, yes, if there are hundreds of members posting threads in their houses, they should be able to hang threads (as I said, putting it on their front lawn) which means that they're promoting them. Then, the threads so climbing the charts. If a bunch of users who have earned rights of "firemen", or whatever, begin posting in a thread, then because of the common denominator and its frequency of showing up, the thread would obviously start climbing the charts--so it'd be a "must have" for other firemens (it would show up in the "mail" of people's houses when it comes time that it reaches a boiling point and starts promoting itself in the mail for notices or whatever).

Essentially, it becomes like a living community. Sure, it might start off slow at first, but you have to consider the fact that there are less threads at first, so newer threads would obviously be hot-topics until the forums get more threads being posted, and then things begin to "weed out"--or, in other words, sort themselves out. It's sort of like a smart forum which is formed to meet the needs of the community.

It's sort of like a window into the world of e-mail. Users have the potential to turn stupid threads like, "Hi, my name is bob" into the forums' hottest thread if for some reason everyone starts viewing it a lot, posting in it, and/or promoting it.

So, users can even promote threads that aren't their own--but, users should seriously be cautious about what they promote, because what they promote has a limit on it. They can only promote maybe five threads--descending from highest approval to least approval.

Then, threads have new listing options: Overall Promotion, Promotion by Groups (so, if the overall community promotes a thread about growing trees but lumberjacks obviously are not promoting it, users should be able to, using the neighborhoods, use the "jobs" system to find threads popular by those who promote cutting down trees). The house should be like grand central for a user--it serves them like maids with a folder on a platter.