Paid Mods

[Boofo]

Originally Posted by MPDev

For a commercial script, I would agree. However, a "mod" which isn't your typical application doesn't really fall into the same catgegory.

If it is a paid for mod, it does. When you start charging for code or mods, then they all fall into the same category. When you involve money, you take all of the integrity out of a place like vb.org.

[MPDev]

Integrity? I'm not sure thats the word you were looking for.

Once again, as a resouce the lack of a professional aspect to the selection is limiting. You could have special forums devoted to the topic of paid mods and maintain the "integrity" of the site while providing a valuable service to the entire community.

[amykhar]

If I wanted a paid hack and I didn't want to pay for it or couldn't pay for it, I'd code it myself if I could or do without. I wouldn't pitch a fit that the author of the code is charging for his work. Just a thought.

And Bob, this community has evolved so far past a coding community that it's not funny. A year ago, I would have agreed that paid hacks have NO place here. But, Jelsoft wants this site to be a site for customers to download additions to vbulletin. Once it ceased being a coding community and people were chastised for telling members that they really should be able to code a bit before trying to install some hacks, then it became a viable place to advertise paid hacks within an organized structure. But, that structure needs to be defined by Jelsoft, and Jelsoft most definitely should charge something for advertising rights.

MPDev, you are actually in a better position to allow advertising of paid modifications on your site. Your members have already shown they are willing to pay for custom work.

Amy

[Boofo]

Originally Posted by MPDev

Integrity? I'm not sure thats the word you were looking for.

Once again, as a resouce the lack of a professional aspect to the selection is limiting. You could have special forums devoted to the topic of paid mods and maintain the "integrity" of the site while providing a valuable service to the entire community.

Once you allow one paid mod here, then everyone will think they can make a buck or two off of anything they write. This site is no less professional as a learning and sharing center than it would be as a paid mod site. The paid mod service is nowhere near as valuable as learning and sharing is. Only to people like yourself who have something to sell.

And, yes, integrity was the exact word I was looking for.

[MPDev]

Yes, true - we actually have a thriving business of people who pay for custom modifications. I believe that alone is a decent indication that there are plenty of people willing to pay for quality work and support.

Limiting your selection to free mods supported by the community holds you back from being the "ultimate resource".

[MPDev]

Except in this case, I'm here as someone looking to buy something - not sell.

The paid mod service is nowhere near as valuable as learning and sharing is.

Unless, of course, your goal is to enhance your site without having to "learn" how to code or use vB templates. Or, in my case, just wanting to convert from one format to another because JelSoft doesn't support it.

Only to people like yourself who have something to sell.

That sounds more like a personal attack than an example. Is there a reason you are going on the offensive?

[Boofo]

Originally Posted by MPDev

Except in this case, I'm here as someone looking to buy something - not sell.



Unless, of course, your goal is to enhance your site without having to "learn" how to code or use vB templates. Or, in my case, just wanting to convert from one format to another because JelSoft doesn't support it.



That sounds more like a personal attack than an example. Is there a reason you are going on the offensive?

Nothing personal whatsoever. I'm sorry if you took it that way. I just don't have any time for anyone who deals in paid hacks. Never have and never will.

[msimplay]

Originally Posted by Boofo

Once you allow one paid mod here, then everyone will think they can make a buck or two off of anything they write. This site is no less professional as a learning and sharing center than it would be as a paid mod site. The paid mod service is nowhere near as valuable as learning and sharing is. Only to people like yourself who have something to sell.

And, yes, integrity was the exact word I was looking for.

yep sharing and learning i agree to the above


To the others
i don't know why we are reiterating the same point

we don't want people making a fast buck on this place
if paid mods were allowed u would rarely see a free mod

for example if u had the opportunity in a place to release a free or paid mod
what would u post
especially since this place could become the center of trade for paid modifications

fair enough we are here to see the beginning but it isn't easy to shake off an image of center of trade once its labelled on
the very fact that they can't release paid mods here is what makes it desirable in the first place

as a customer of vbulletin and as a learner of php / databases
i would say if i had to pay for something and i knew i could get it elsewhere free and to a similar standard i'll just go elsewhere

i think the very fact that this conversation topic is up means that you don't want to give your hacks for free
thats fine but take it elsewhere

in terms of communication there are other mediums of releasing paid modifications so go do it

[MPDev]

By "deals in" do you mean a customer who is looking to make a purchase?

This is the issue which I am talking about - you want no part of it, but as a the purchaser of another vB license, I am looking for a mod which will enable me to convert a site from one forum to another. I know there is one alternative, but because its a "paid mod", its not allowed here and therefore I cannot find it.

By limiting my selection to only "free" mods you are not providing me with all options that would otherwise be avaialble to me.

for example if u had the opportunity in a place to release a free or paid mod
what would u post
especially since this place could become the center of trade for paid modifications

Again, you are discounting the power of a free market. Just because a mod is for sale doesn't mean you have to buy it.

i think the very fact that this conversation topic is up means that you don't want to give your hacks for free
thats fine but take it elsewhere

Again, you aren't reading what I am writing. I am looking to buy a mod, not sell one. I give away my mods because they help our customers, which indirectly benefits me. I have no such mod for vB that I would ever consider charging for - does that clarify my reasons for this thread at all?

[Boofo]

Originally Posted by MPDev

By "deals in" do you mean a customer who is looking to make a purchase?

This is the issue which I am talking about - you want no part of it, but as a the purchaser of another vB license, I am looking for a mod which will enable me to convert a site from one forum to another. I know there is one alternative, but because its a "paid mod", its not allowed here and therefore I cannot find it.

By limiting my selection to only "free" mods you are not providing me with all options that would otherwise be avaialble to me.



Again, you are discounting the power of a free market. Just because a mod is for sale doesn't mean you have to buy it.



Again, you aren't reading what I am writing. I am looking to buy a mod, not sell one. I give away my mods because they help our customers, which indirectly benefits me. I have no such mod for vB that I would ever consider charging for - does that clarify my reasons for this thread at all?

You give away your mods? What is PP then? Did that turn free?