vBulletin vs. Invision Board

[DestyNova]

Originally posted by Doofey
Also, I would like to thankyou guys for being so kind, it show to me that you guys will be nice.
I bet there are some people here that feel they have to lash out.
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Do you guys have some of those people here?

Doofey

Sad or unfortunately yes we do have some but it doesnt matter actually every board have these people anyway, all we can do is ignore them and give them few chance to get it straight. I m going to deal with people thur net as I deal with people in IRL.

I d love to give you temporary "admin" to access AdminCP and some to see how it work but I m still work on it so I didnt let any members to swing by until I m done with hacks and etcetera.

As for "respect our decision" as I do for you, I respect you for your decision with ibf situation, I doubt you will regret with your decision anyway.

[Doofey]

Of course I won't regret my decision.
vB may be very good indeed, but when I load my IBF from my local server and WebServer. Its really fast, both running different OSs.

I wouldn't use the "Temp" admin access. I wouldn't want you to feel that I may screw it up. I feel that it would not be right, and I wouldn't want someone to go into my Admin Area and Possibly screw it up and I don't want you to feel the same way.

I do have a few friends that have vB.

There are some tings that vB has that I would love to see in IBF.

Also, for some reason, I don't really like vBs GUI. I know its editable, but I am so used to the way IBF is. I guess you can say I am a preson thats afraid of change.

Doofey

[Martin64]

Originally posted by Smoothie
BTW, talking of speed, vb vs. phpBB, IB, UBB, I find vb to be quite fast. Even though I run a relatively small sized forum, vb flies for me.

Yes, if you're on a fast server vBulletin is lightening quick. That's one of the reason I decided to go the vBulletin path myself.

[Guichi]

first i have to say that i own two vbulletins one of which i am co-webmaster at. I am quite frankly disgusted with vbulletin right now and i will surely be converting to another bulletin board when each term is up respectively.

- you guys speak about the great customer support when you buy a vbulletin. this is completely false! you can get the same support from a free boards official site just as much as you can get from vbulletin.com and .org.

-Limitations on what you can put on your board also hinders many sites although you guys dont seem to enforce the rule that much considering ive seen some crazy stuff like marajuana forums listed. the potential of having your lisense revoked because of this is silly, id be damned if any vbulletin official would steal my hard earned money just because they interpret my content as illegal or against your terms of use. none of the other bulletin boards have such a stupid policy.

-vbulletin.org. this place is a glorified "feature" of buying a vbulletin. there are plenty of hacks available for other boards and you can get them without any limitations whatsoever.

My biggest gripe is the registration of the domain the forums will be used in and vbulletins partnership with nukepirates.com. Users cant even put up a simple subdomain,redirector or move their board without nukepirates being on you like white is on rice. it also seems that explaining a simple redirector or forum move isnt good enough for both vbulletin and nukepirates. vbulletin is too lazy to even reply to a customers emails about the situation yet they reply very quick to inquiries about purchasing a vbulletin on their forums but wouldnt give me the the light of day on my problems and im a paying member. while on the other side i have nukepirates sending me warning letters almost daily and even ultametums via email and emails to my host wanting to shut down my forums.

To me this is absolutely unforgivable and it is so in the business world. when you purchase a product you expect the support that they claim to give you. i have yet to see that in vbulletin in the time that i have purchased one. leave this as a warning for those who wish to purchase a vbulletin.

[Smoothie]

While what you say may or may not be true, I've received a ton of support both here and at vb.com. No other forum software I've owned even comes close. Guys like FireFly, Xenon, Bira, etc. They and the others make this place and vBulletin what it is.

[okrogius]

first i have to say that i own two vbulletins one of which i am co-webmaster at. I am quite frankly disgusted with vbulletin right now and i will surely be converting to another bulletin board when each term is up respectively.

- you guys speak about the great customer support when you buy a vbulletin. this is completely false! you can get the same support from a free boards official site just as much as you can get from vbulletin.com and .org.

there are things called support forms for a reason. use it. the forums are extras.

-Limitations on what you can put on your board also hinders many sites although you guys dont seem to enforce the rule that much considering ive seen some crazy stuff like marajuana forums listed. the potential of having your lisense revoked because of this is silly, id be damned if any vbulletin official would steal my hard earned money just because they interpret my content as illegal or against your terms of use. none of the other bulletin boards have such a stupid policy.

practically any decent forum software authors will not let you use their work for an illega purpose. and why would you care? you condone piracy like some preteens do?

-vbulletin.org. this place is a glorified "feature" of buying a vbulletin. there are plenty of hacks available for other boards and you can get them without any limitations whatsoever.

there are no limitations of any kind. of course you need to own vbulleitn to get hacks, if you don't own it you wouldn't need the hacks for it.

My biggest gripe is the registration of the domain the forums will be used in and vbulletins partnership with nukepirates.com. Users cant even put up a simple subdomain,redirector or move their board without nukepirates being on you like white is on rice. it also seems that explaining a simple redirector or forum move isnt good enough for both vbulletin and nukepirates. vbulletin is too lazy to even reply to a customers emails about the situation yet they reply very quick to inquiries about purchasing a vbulletin on their forums but wouldnt give me the the light of day on my problems and im a paying member. while on the other side i have nukepirates sending me warning letters almost daily and even ultametums via email and emails to my host wanting to shut down my forums.

You can put on a simple redirect as much as you want. You just can't install it in two public places with one license.

To me this is absolutely unforgivable and it is so in the business world. when you purchase a product you expect the support that they claim to give you. i have yet to see that in vbulletin in the time that i have purchased one. leave this as a warning for those who wish to purchase a vbulletin.

[Steve Machol]

Originally posted by Guichi
first i have to say that i own two vbulletins one of which i am co-webmaster at. I am quite frankly disgusted with vbulletin right now and i will surely be converting to another bulletin board when each term is up respectively.
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-Limitations on what you can put on your board also hinders many sites although you guys dont seem to enforce the rule that much considering ive seen some crazy stuff like marajuana forums listed

The only 'illegal' activities that could cause you to lose your license are intellectual property violations. Therefore if that is something you're engaged in, then you are right - vBulletin is not the software for you.

Other than that I encourage you to voice your complaints to John directly at john@vbulletin.com. Might as well try to turn this into something constructive.

Also I'm sorry that you feel the support hasn't been very good. If you'd like to email me specific examples of poor support you've received I'll be happy to take a look.

[cyberphere]

Changing the look of invision is very much imposible

[Guichi]

Originally posted by Codename49
practically any decent forum software authors will not let you use their work for an illega purpose. and why would you care? you condone piracy like some preteens do?

You can put on a simple redirect as much as you want. You just can't install it in two public places with one license.

i dont believe in blatant piracy but i do believe you should do whatever you want with the product you just purchase less distributing it.

i know all about the two vbulletin rule. i had a simple redirect and after about 5 emails they still neglected to see that.

as for emailing john@vbulletin.com i must have emailed him at least 3 out of those 5 emails i sent and to this date never recieved any reply nor even an apology for what happened on those days. this is no way of treating a paid customer.

i dont know about IBF, i have never used it. im sure they worked hard on it and they surely deserve alot of respect considering they are giving it away for free. I do know that there is more than one board that is faster than vbulletin(OpenBB one of them) but i do know that its not worth your hard earned money for a product when you dont get the support that you paid for while their competitors are giving their product away for free.

[DestyNova]

Originally posted by Guichi


i dont believe in blatant piracy but i do believe you should do whatever you want with the product you just purchase less distributing it.

i know all about the two vbulletin rule. i had a simple redirect and after about 5 emails they still neglected to see that.

as for emailing john@vbulletin.com i must have emailed him at least 3 out of those 5 emails i sent and to this date never recieved any reply nor even an apology for what happened on those days. this is no way of treating a paid customer.

i dont know about IBF, i have never used it. im sure they worked hard on it and they surely deserve alot of respect considering they are giving it away for free. I do know that there is more than one board that is faster than vbulletin(OpenBB one of them) but i do know that its not worth your hard earned money for a product when you dont get the support that you paid for while their competitors are giving their product away for free.

Try to post at vb.com and keep bumping until John or someone to notice your post. As for me, I post several times with vb problems, they answer my QQ straight and simple also immediately. Really yes, speed is issue but security, featues, and etcetera are part of the issue too. I dont like IBF due to ugly template system, permission group limited, and many more. Basically if you dont like VB then fine with us, just do what you want with your decision about board softwares. As for me I admire VB and its work. Perhaps someday I ll have the problem with these support, who knows but for now it s excellent support for me and many buyers around here.

Basically VB rules are really simple for me to deal with. Anything illegal is always illegal in federal's eyes so better for us to do not use or abuse its privilage anyway. You or anyone can always make your own BB if need or your liking without need to deal with these "rules" Even though I m VB fan and I m planning to build my own forum from scratch so that I can deal with my own rules, supports and vera... It is not simple but it is fun