do not buy vB 5.0

[englishtalk]

Originally Posted by Digital Jedi

But again, I should be able to sue every car company I ever purchased a car from on that basis. The way people post about vB5, is as if everything they've ever purchased before actually was superior "to the leading brand".

:-) but again, we're not talking about a product that's inferior to the leading brand, we're talking about catastrophic failure, about a product not fit for purpose - something that simply does not work. The cars you bought, I assume, started up and took you from A to B. Vbulletin 5 does not currently do that. My "latest activity" and "latest updated posts" etc display in largely random order. The Vbulletin tech says "hmm very puzzling" and that he hasn't seen this before. And I haven't heard anything back. If your new BMW didn't work and you heard that from the BMW dealer....well it would just never happen.

[Digital Jedi]

What I'm suggesting is, the product does basically work. It's a forum. If you got posts and threads that largely function as posts and threads, you've got a working forum. It gets you from A to B. The problems with vB aren't basic functionality. The problems are the air conditioner doesn't work right, the radio speakers are buggy and...do you smell gas? None of these seem like anything that would get you far in a court case.

[englishtalk]

Originally Posted by Digital Jedi

What I'm suggesting is, the product does basically work. It's a forum. If you got posts and threads that largely function as posts and threads, you've got a working forum. It gets you from A to B. The problems with vB aren't basic functionality. The problems are the air conditioner doesn't work right, the radio speakers are buggy and...do you smell gas? None of these seem like anything that would get you far in a court case.

So it's a fine line, granted. But my latest posts stream doesn't work and that means people can't interact with my forum which means it's down the drain, bust.

[Max Taxable]

Originally Posted by englishtalk

But my latest posts stream doesn't work and that means people can't interact with my forum which means it's down the drain, bust.

You should start a thread on that here, there are tons of folks in this community who help others. You might be surprised.

[englishtalk]

Originally Posted by Max Taxable

You should start a thread on that here, there are tons of folks in this community who help others. You might be surprised.

Already done here and on the vbulletin.com forum No responses from either.

[mokujin]

Originally Posted by WEBDosser

vBulletin should have stayed with version 3 for a lot longer than it did when IB took over, IB reminds me of other companies that i have seen that do a take over, all they want is their money back asap and advance too fast and mistakes with product releases trying to get as much as possible out of it before it dies.

Jelsoft is from UK while IB is from US
Look at xenforo now (is from UK) and it's a far away better.
I bought one license from them.

[Spangle]

VB5 works if you want a basic forum with no add ons, and have a small community, there are forums out there running VB5 without problems

[cellarius]

Originally Posted by Spangle

VB5 works if you want a basic forum with no add ons, and have a small community, there are forums out there running VB5

Some.

without problems

I doubt that.

[TheLastSuperman]

Don't forget that 5 is getting better with time, like I've said before 4.x is running smooth at the moment so simply purchase a 5 license, install 4.x then upgrade to 5.x when its also running smoothly and done no worries, no stress*.

*Disclaimer: (WHAT?! lol) If you go crazy installing mods and tons of styles then yes when you upgrade to 5.x, if those said mods and styles do not have 5.x versions available they will not carry over and will need to be updated which may cost you money to have done although at this point in time the number of free and paid third-party modifications available for 5.x is not comparable to that of 4.x so there could be issues "carrying over" 4.x to 5.x mods regardless therefor running vBulletin 4.x for quite a while might be your best option at this point in time.

[Max Taxable]

Originally Posted by TheLastSuperman

Don't forget that 5 is getting better with time, like I've said before 4.x is running smooth at the moment so simply purchase a 5 license, install 4.x then upgrade to 5.x when its also running smoothly and done no worries, no stress

I would even go so far as to say, install 3.8.x which is also downloadable when you buy your vB5 license. (Correct me if I am wrong.)