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Old 06-21-2011, 10:55 AM
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I will gladly buy this product, but unfortunatelly i can't pay for "dreams". After i will see something beeing accomplished, i will contribute for sure. Untill then, sorry... but i only see enthusiasm. Don't get me wrong, but i have learned to not trust anyone on the internet (after loosing money so many times)... specially members who just registered this year (HellRZR). As for Lancerforhire, i can only see two mods on vBulletin.org... which is not enough for me. If you'll take a look inside 8WayRun.Com - Media Library you will notice a ton of templates and coding required... nothing to be getting easy, specially if they say "will start from scratch".

If this would be one of the "easy mods", there would be at least 5 other media library mods over vBulletin.org. And what if we pay for this project and becomes just like 8WayRun did... a lost project? What if there will be more money required? Or what if it will take an year for Lancerforhire to finish this project?

Sorry, too many unknown variables for me. If i could see a project with a timeline, with exactly what's to be done and what not... exactly how much money the coder estimates for programming... then it would be another matter.

P.S. Why not trying to get in touch with the 8WayRun.com - Media Library coder (Jaxel)... maybe he will just let you continue his work? It would be much faster, and much more reliable than starting from scratch. And will not take forever. Just my 50 cents (or bucks if i have to)...
Point well taken and understood. I know what your saying but for us at least we have no option but to be positive and enthusiastic, we have been tied to this mod for quite some time now and are in desperate need of something updated and revamped. Although I also do not trust any one online I believe this project will be transparent and interactive as Lancerforhire suggested it would be. I'm sure we can all come up with an agreement we call can live with and fell comfortable with. Besides it's not like we're gonna be paying hundreds or thousand of dollars. The dev said it would be $50 for 15 people with the project being outlined before hand and any other work or extra features we want to add would be paid separately. I believe he was clear enough on that for me to feel comfortable with.

In any case I will not myself go ask Jaxel to revisit his abandoned mod, he abandoned it for a reason and I don't think he's going to be back at it for a minimal sum of cash. He says he does not want to come back to vb to make a point and I respect him for it and if he's not gonna support the mod then why bother. Besides I already paid him once and I'm not gonna do it again.
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Old 06-21-2011, 11:10 AM
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Good morning gentlemen.

It all comes down to this!

Some of us need a working, supported version of this mod more than others and are willing to pay for it. BUT, the purpose of this group, if I can call it a group, is to have this mod redone by Lancerforhire and then release it for FREE to the vb.org community.

So gentlemen, no one will look down on you if you don't participate, you will end up with this mod anyways.

I understand your concerns, I have been down that road many times. However in all the dealings I have had with Lancer, I have nothing negative to say about him.

As far as my involvement, well I along with Mark4865 came up with this idea and we just wanted to see if there was an interest here at vb.org for such a project.

Jaxel did a great thing with his mod and from my understanding didn't leave the mod, he left VB all together. Others asked for his permission to continue/update his mod and unfortunately he refused, which I cant blame him one bit for. He put allot of time and effort in his media library and wants to keep it for himself.

**contributor list updated.

Thanks to all for reading and for your participation in this mod.
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Old 06-21-2011, 11:12 AM
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Mark4865: Sorry if i was using "hars words". It was not my intention. But as EquinoxWorld said, i already paid for 8WayRun.Com - Media Library and what do i got 6 months later? An unsupported mod and me with the imposibillity to upgrade my forum because the mod became very popular on my website... and it's not working properly with 4.1.4. Plus it doesn't even know the new youtu.be format (not even speaking about other video sources).

So, i only wanted to point out we need somebody really serious involved into this... Maybe i would've paid 10 times more that he asked and i would feel good (for a product i can put my hands on, test it and so on)... but even if i pay 1 buck and i see nothing, it's still a bad deal for me. It's not about the sum... it's about how i would like to see things.

For example... if this media will be good, but unable to import the database from the other media (Video Directory & 8WayRun.Com - Media Library)... for me it would mean nothing, as i can't start from scratch. But that's just me. I will be watching how this project goes... and gladly offer my support, beta testing and money if it has to.

Thank you for understanding and keep up the good work!

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the 15 contributions of $50 are for creating a brand new, stable media library mod with the same features. The new mod will clearly have optimizations, performance improvements, and of course and a script to transfer over the media data from the old mod.
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BUT, the purpose of this group, if I can call it a group, is to have this mod redone by Lancerforhire
What is it after all? A brand new mod, or a redone mod?
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Old 06-21-2011, 11:40 AM
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Hi MonkYZ

The purpose of the group is as follows :

Have a new mod with current functionality of the current mod along with an import script to be able to transfer from the current media library.

Quote from Lancerforhire : creating a brand new, stable media library mod with the same features. The new mod will clearly have optimizations, performance improvements, and of course and a script to transfer over the media data from the old mod.

If as a group with decide that we want extra functionality, then still will have to be negotiated with Lancerforhire and will have extra fees.

Each of us will have different needs I guess, but I think a wise approach is to start with a base product which and then do add-ons as per user requirements.

Hope this answers your questions...
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Old 06-21-2011, 11:55 AM
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Looking forward to this when completed.

One question.Do the 15 or so pay for this mod then once completed everyone can download it for free.Im on the list btw,i dont mind paying to help out
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Old 06-21-2011, 12:05 PM
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Looking forward to this when completed.

One question.Do the 15 or so pay for this mod then once completed everyone can download it for free.Im on the list btw,i dont mind paying to help out
Yes that is the plan, once completed it will be released for free to the vb.org community.
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Old 06-21-2011, 12:17 PM
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Hi MonkYZ

If as a group with decide that we want extra functionality, then still will have to be negotiated with Lancerforhire and will have extra fees.

Each of us will have different needs I guess, but I think a wise approach is to start with a base product which and then do add-ons as per user requirements.
Sounds perfect to me. We should start off with a base script with the same features Media Library has now and then move on from there if anyone or we all want to but the main idea is to first get a new script with all the same functionality as Media Library and import script, beyond there it's up to us; individually or as a group.

BTW 3 MORE!!!! xD c'mon people!!!!
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Old 06-21-2011, 01:03 PM
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I see a lot of people complaining about vaporware so...

May we please see some of LancerforHire's more sophisticated works?

This would relieve doubts and earn more contributions.
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Would this media gallery be integrated with the CMS?
Will it be a CMS content type? Can we arrange the layout with the CMS? Can we add CMS widgets to the media gallery? Will new entries / comments show up in whats new?
Will it have reputation functionality?

A media gallery is a massive undertaking that should not be underestimated though.
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Old 06-21-2011, 02:41 PM
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I see a lot of people complaining about vaporware so...

May we please see some of LancerforHire's more sophisticated works?

This would relieve doubts and earn more contributions.
I have nearly 50 reviews for professional work, mostly for vBulletin (43/47). One of the more sophisticated and recent examples of my work is the World Map (V?RLDSKARTA in Swedish) system located here. I typically work using an escrow system for the security of both the client and myself, but this is not practical with fifteen people.
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