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Old 12-23-2005, 04:27 AM
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You must have been informed about the way this country stands...it is not alright for a company to refuse to sell their products to another person just because they think marijuana is wrong or bad.
Please, tell me where it is defined by law that VBSEO does not have a right to deny his product to someone that operates a marijuana website or adult website.

Answer me this too:

Why is it that when I make a product to sell, all of a sudden my rights get removed on who I can sell this too and who has my product on their site promoting it. Why must I allow a porn site to use my product and have my name associated with a porn site????

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The law also say Creed..which means your beliefs and opinions..and the customers opinion is obviously he is pro-marijuana..either way life goes on and it is bad business ethics on such a low level.
You seem to be confused. Business ethics != law

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According to you a company can make a product and sell it to white people only and refusing to sell to other races or to only sell to Chritians and not Jews...
Nope, that is discrimmination based on race which is illegal

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that is not what this country is about..
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I really can;t think of any other product online that you buy that give stipulations on what kinda site it can be used on...
You must not be trying hard: Some Web Hosting sites deny hosting to adult websites and have been doing so for years

Have you never heard of Google? Google denies the use of their Adsense program on adult and gambling sites.



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From what I was told from a friend in Denver they just passed it I think the begining of this month by majority vote. Read for yourself

Click Click Click
Still illegal on Federal level and still going through the Supreme Court with a very bleak outlook
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Old 12-23-2005, 04:51 AM
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It does sound a bit like discrimination, but what can you do? Good luck with getting your forums optimized though.
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Old 12-23-2005, 05:10 AM
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Wow you got the answer for everything Brent lol j/k...first off read what I wrote again

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I really can;t think of any other product online that you buy that give stipulations on what kinda site it can be used on...
You don't put hosting on your site you put your site on the hosting...

Adsense is not a product..and you don't buy it

Second you said

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Someone can make a product, that represents them as a company, and they should have a right to control who uses their product and how the person uses.
And now you say nope that is racist and discrimination..well you can't discriminate another persons creed either....

You also said Business ethics = Law..I'm not sure what you mean by that..care to explain because last I knew business ethics was how a company is run and how they target their products and services.

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Still illegal on Federal level and still going through the Supreme Court with a very bleak outlook

True it is still illegal but the ordinance is there to back off the police from focusing attention on marijuana users and go after the real bad guys/girls. The police can still arrest you if they want but chances are they will not.
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Old 12-23-2005, 05:18 AM
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Adsense is not a product..and you don't buy it
Do you not buy adwords? Pretty sure you do!

Please quickly review the Adwords terms of service: https://adwords.google.com/select/contentpolicy.html

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Advertising is not permitted for online casinos, sports books, bingo, and affiliates with the primary purpose of driving traffic to online gambling sites.
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Advertising is not permitted for the promotion of child pornography or other non-consensual material.
You do indeed pay for Adwords. I said Adsense because it ties in with adwords. You can't have one without the other

Also, free web hosting puts their name on your site. Atleast all the ones I have seen do. Geocities etc etc So yes they do have their name on your site.


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And now you say nope that is racist and discrimination..well you can't discriminate another persons creed either....
You can't associate my name with a porn site if I say you can't. Really is simple as that. My product. Sorry

You can not force VBSEO to put aside his "creed" and have his company be promoted on a Adult website either.

You figure out where you draw that fine line.

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You also said Business ethics = Law..I'm not sure what you mean by that..care to explain because last I knew business ethics was how a company is run and how they target their products and services.
Psst != means does not equal.

You said it was bad Business ethics. Business ethics does not equal law.



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True it is still illegal but the ordinance is there to back off the police from focusing attention on marijuana users and go after the real bad guys/girls. The police can still arrest you if they want but chances are they will not.
I don't like "chances" when it comes to my criminal record. So to me.... that is a pretty dumb ordinance to pass.

You did not answer this by the way

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Why must I allow a porn site to use my product and have my name associated with a porn site????
Just because they have the money? Money isn't everything in life you know! Hard to believe yes but true.
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Old 12-23-2005, 05:30 AM
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Short and simple reply..I gotta get some more work done...

The adwords you pay for do not go on your site..Adsense goes on your site...read my post again

!= I missed it..my bad

it's been fun....
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Old 12-23-2005, 05:34 AM
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Short and simple reply..I gotta get some more work done...

The adwords you pay for do not go on your site..Adsense goes on your site...read my post again

!= I missed it..my bad

it's been fun....
Adsense goes on your site.

Work with me here

If google allows Porn and Gambling sites to use Adwords guess what?!?!

If you have adsense on your site... guess what ads will be shown?

If someone came to my site and wanted to purchase advertising for a gambling site then I would turn them away because I do not want gambling ads on my site. I am selling a service: Advertising on my site. I have a write to turn down who I please. How is it any different when someone comes to me with money for a SEO hack and I turn down their money because I do not want my hack associated with a porn site!

and please for the love of god answer me why they must allow their product and their name to appear on a porn site that is against their religion, against their beliefs, just because they want it and have money?!?!?!
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Old 12-23-2005, 06:10 AM
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You could try Deans SEO.

But realisticly this is one of the problems that buying from a third party entitles, youmight have wanted to read their rules about what they allow. They believe in not allowing adult topics. Their loss, I do hope someone comes out with somthing the same, cheaper, and open source.
i second that!!
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is bent the spokesman for vbseo ?
your always speaking up when anyone talks about the bad times they had with the product ??

anyways.. good to hear deans seo product is soon to be out of beta

in all honesty, I've been reading a LOT about seo and how to optimize your website, and I've yet to find proof that your site wont get index with static URL's, and for the 150 bill, it's definitely not worth it. I'd rather pay someone who has the experience with this and can seo my/your site, and be more then pleased...

btw i want to move to Denver ,, to bad the donkeys play there..hehe
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Brent, why are you so prompt to respond to vbseo threads? Answer that question please.
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Old 12-23-2005, 07:48 AM
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I'm a christian
Ummm, good for you but what does that have to do with the discussion? Before anyone says it I am by no means anti-Christian, I'm just curious here.
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