Kier Throws Down Gauntlet To Template Magicians

[sabret00the]

i'm of the same feeling, tables could be cut down, but i don't see a need for a full removal.

[Princeton]

I would love to see complete removal of <table>s but now it's not the time.

A tableless structure will help with speed.
A tableless structure will help with bandwidth.
A tableless structure will help with SEO.
A tableless structure will help with personalization. (lol, personal preference)

[twoseven]

i'd love to see them add more tables. the more the better. i have a hard time doing what i want with div's/layers tables are so much easier for this oldschool person.

[TruthElixirX]

Can someone explain if they did get rid of al ltables jsut how much faster it would be? Are we talking faster load times, less disk space, less server load? What?

[Dean C]

Originally Posted by twoseven

i'd love to see them add more tables. the more the better. i have a hard time doing what i want with div's/layers tables are so much easier for this oldschool person.

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[sabret00the]

Originally Posted by Dean C

:dead:

LMAO

i only have basic knowledge of div's but float >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the internet.

[Dean C]

Three w00ts for sabe!

[Princeton]

Originally Posted by TruthElixirX

Can someone explain if they did get rid of al ltables jsut how much faster it would be? Are we talking faster load times, less disk space, less server load? What?

An html page full of tables: 30kb
The same page without tables (divs/css): 19kb

Is 19kb faster? sure is
Will it use less disk space? sure does (less data on saved in database)
Less bandwidth? yep -- do the math
Less server load? not really

tableless layouts are treated as text -- what I mean is that your browser will display the first character as soon as it reads it

with tables (it depends on code and the browser you use) ...
some content may not be displayed until the last character within table is read

tableless layouts can be viewed on all modern appliances (pdas, etc)

[TruthElixirX]

Originally Posted by princeton

An html page full of tables: 30kb
The same page without tables (divs/css): 19kb

Is 19kb faster? sure is
Will it use less disk space? sure does (less data on saved in database)
Less bandwidth? yep -- do the math
Less server load? not really

tableless layouts are treated as text -- what I mean is that your browser will display the first character as soon as it reads it

with tables (it depends on code and the browser you use) ...
some content may not be displayed until the last character within table is read

tableless layouts can be viewed on all modern appliances (pdas, etc)

Thank you for breaknig it down.


So pretty much the only thing you are saving is b/w and disk space and giving pda's the ability to use it? Bah. This seems to be someone jsut lookngi for something to complain about.

[Corriewf]

Originally Posted by TruthElixirX

Thank you for breaknig it down.


So pretty much the only thing you are saving is b/w and disk space and giving pda's the ability to use it? Bah. This seems to be someone jsut lookngi for something to complain about.

He gave a small file for example but think about it in a much larger scale.