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Old 05-10-2004, 01:26 PM
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Very well said, sir!
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And I don't think it's ok for graphics and styles to be paid for.
And just how should professionals expect to make a living? I assume that not everyone here has a trust fund.

I assume you expect mods posted here only to be done by people in the "learning" process. As such, the expectation for support could be summed up with "you get what you pay for".

That said, the emphasis of these forums is for learning and serious developers should consider alternative resources. (That gives me an idea....)

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i can understand for large large modifications but small ones .
I think you fail to take into account that market demand will drive prices and "small mods" would unlikely generate any revenue as there would bound to be free alternatives. The current policy prohibits even "large ones" from being promoted on the site (such as the mod I was looking for). I can see a trend here where people with no financial incentive often fail to followup on their work - after all, the "fun" of documenting and posting mods is often lost after a couple pages of rants from other people on the learning curve.

Advertising seems like a viable alternative.
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And just how should professionals expect to make a living? I assume that not everyone here has a trust fund.

I assume you expect mods posted here only to be done by people in the "learning" process. As such, the expectation for support could be summed up with "you get what you pay for".

That said, the emphasis of these forums is for learning and serious developers should consider alternative resources. (That gives me an idea....)



I think you fail to take into account that market demand will drive prices and "small mods" would unlikely generate any revenue as there would bound to be free alternatives. The current policy prohibits even "large ones" from being promoted on the site (such as the mod I was looking for). I can see a trend here where people with no financial incentive often fail to followup on their work - after all, the "fun" of documenting and posting mods is often lost after a couple pages of rants from other people on the learning curve.

Advertising seems like a viable alternative.
Professionals need to make a living somewhere other than here.

And poeple who fail to follow up on their work, are going to do the same thing after the rants come in when money is involved. You seem to think that money is some sort of magic that will make someone care about support. It doesn't happen that way. You of all people should know that.

If you have something to sell, peddle it elsewhere. This is a learning and sharing site. It's not a money pit.
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Old 05-10-2004, 02:06 PM
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My point was that by denying the opportunity for people to see all their options, you are simply providing a service which caters to the lowest common demoniator.

As "The Ultimate vBulletin Resource" you might consider some guidelines for allowing more professional involvement here.
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My point was that by denying the opportunity for people to see all their options, you are simply providing a service which caters to the lowest common demoniator.

As "The Ultimate vBulletin Resource" you might consider some guidelines for allowing more professional involvement here.
Ok, let me ask you this. How do you get people to register PP? You still get them even though you aren't allowed to adverise it here, right? Then why do you need to advertise here, too?
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My point was that by denying the opportunity for people to see all their options, you are simply providing a service which caters to the lowest common demoniator.

As "The Ultimate vBulletin Resource" you might consider some guidelines for allowing more professional involvement here.
well i think this actually is the best vbulletin resource

and to the other extent the proffesional involvement is here
because developers like yourself have to come here to make sure their hacks are better than their free equivelenta

and i agree to the point where this is a sharing community we get our support from each other

i myself am only learning but i still help when i can
because simply i remember when i was a newbie

and i will always give back to the community that gave so much to me
and changing that from what it is today
and allowing paid hacks
changes the fundamental principles on why this place is here today

if paid hacks were allowed simple fact would be that
we wouldn't be sharing we would be expecting people to pay

example

hello i got x addon to x mod , i want 5 dollars for it
i just don't want that to happen

and to be honest its only developers like yourself that are moaning
which is a minority
i don't see what the complaint is either
since you make a living off a a gallery script whose main selling point is not that its a gallery but its a gallery that can intergrate with forum scripts
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Old 05-10-2004, 02:17 PM
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If you read my first post, I wasn't talking about PhotoPost. I was talking about a mod someone had posted here which had been removed - specifically a paid mod to convert a Threads db to a vB3 db. While I am sure that JelSoft will get around to it, I had heard about someone offering this script as a service, but could not find the post a was referred to.

Given the choice to wait or pay a few bucks to get it done now, I would probably pay the few bucks. In this case, JelSoft loses out on the vB3 license purchase because I couldn't find the resource I was looking for.
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If you read my first post, I wasn't talking about PhotoPost. I was talking about a mod someone had posted here which had been removed - specifically a paid mod to convert a Threads db to a vB3 db. While I am sure that JelSoft will get around to it, I had heard about someone offering this script as a service, but could not find the post a was referred to.

Given the choice to wait or pay a few bucks to get it done now, I would probably pay the few bucks. In this case, JelSoft loses out on the vB3 license purchase because I couldn't find the resource I was looking for.
I was using PP as an example. If people can find that mod then they can find the other paid mods. They don't need the ORG to advertise on, is what I'm trying to say.
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They don't need the ORG to advertise on, is what I'm trying to say.
For a commercial script, I would agree. However, a "mod" which isn't your typical application doesn't really fall into the same catgegory.
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