screwed over again by a vbulletin.org member?

[Dean C]

I'll keep this open and i don't mind discussion as to solutions to problems such as this but i ask you not to publish any names or this thread will have to be closed

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On topic: Whenever i do custom work regarding big projects which include coding, design and implementation i always take a 25% deposit off the client which no-one to this date has had a problem with. It's for security reasons on our end. Now as far as your situation with having people make custom hacks for you or whatever custom coding you are having done. It is always best to pay after seeing a working demo and screenshots then pay and recieve your product. If you paid in advance then you take that risk. Also as Erwin said if you want to back yourself from any legal fraud or such take all of the person's contact details from full name to address to cellphone. Sign a contract etc. Then you are in your legal rights to start prosecution against this person

- miSt

[roester]

i appreciate all your opinions and am glad to get some feedback. i emailed back and forth with this guy about three times with all the information he requested in order to back up my board. we aren't talking about doing a bunch of work. he asked for a deposit, so i made it in his paypal account. then, i don't hear from him for three days which included about four emails asking what was up and if he couldn't do it that it wasn't a big deal and just return the money and i'll find someone else. while some of you may say three days isn't enough -- in my book it is plenty. i'm sure all of you check your email daily, if not by the hour, and this guy being a vb "hacker" i'm sure is the same. now emergencies can happen, but i am betting he still checks his email even if someone died. all he needed to do was say i can't do it right now and here is your dough back. it would just be nice to have a forum on this board that was given to respectable people to do hacks so when people like me come here for help i can do it with confidence. it is just really uncool for people to pull this crap and leave me hanging day after day. if i don't here back from him this week i will certainly post everything about him so y'all can warn the next guy. i hate to do it, but it would be nice to see this kind of stuff prevented. so anyhow, i am looking for someone to do a backup of a board and install a new board on a different ip.

[M4g!k]

Today at 11:47 AM roester said this in Post #1
once again, for the second time in as many tries i have deposited money in a paypal account for a "hacker" on this website that said he would do work. of course, now he doesn't respond to emails. it would be nice if you would set up something on this website for feedback for members or a place where "known" hackers can do work for vbulletin customers. we are vbulletin customers and you are allowing "hackers" to screw around with your customers. any suggestions?

do what i do..pay them once the jobs complete and you have it on ya harddrive! :smoke:

[Lesane]

Today at 05:35 PM Mist said this in Post #11
but i ask you not to publish any names or this thread will have to be closed
- miSt

Why?

[Dean C]

For the reason that it could ruin the reputation of this person yet it might turn out there is a sensible explination for this person absence. Let me give you an example. In the UK we have a TV show called 'Stars in Your Eyes' which had a lively old man called Matthew Kelly as its host for about 2 decades. He apparently got caught with child pornography and he was slated in the press and got such a bad reputation over here. 3 weeks later he was cleared of all charges placed on him and the police publicly apologised. You'd think that's enough to clear this bad reputation he picked up. Well no he's no longer allowed to host the show and now he's got no work at all. That's how it works....

Hence if you name this person whether guilty or innocent it will leave them with a bad reputation.

Good luck roester !

- miSt

[roester]

hey mod,

don't you think you are going a little overboard with your comparison? by posting the name it simply lets everyone know that this person should not be allowed to do work on this vb. they will likely change their info anyhow and come back under a different name, but are you seriously going to back someone that STILL hasn't answered my emails and took my money? i know you don't know me, but let's first assume i am telling the truth and all i was trying to do was get my board backed up. i understand its my own fault for not going through the motions for such a simply board backup AND THAT IS WHY I THINK THE BOARD SHOULD PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER FOR CUSTOMERS LIKE MYSELF. if i had a legitimate place to go for hacks, backups, upgrades, etc. it wouldn't be an issue at all. i have a solution for you. why don't i pass on the person's info to you first and you see if you get a reply, then when you see for yourself you allow the name and email address to be posted.

[Lesane]

@mist:
Sure, there are 2 sides. But don't you think that a vbhacker will reply(on this thread, email etc) if he has his valid reasons? I think it's clearly enough when he don't reply!

[Brad]

I propose a sticky thread in the service request forum that would list "recomended" hackers and what work they are instreted in doing.

I know it would take some time to put togther and keep updated, but I do think it would keep things like this from happing.

[Gavin B.]

Well it sounds like it is sorted out now, so there's probably no need to name names IMO If someone does get ripped off though, I'm all for hearing who

[roester]

i'm not exactly sure what is sorted out. i haven't heard back from the person and they kept the deposit. i would like to see though some sort of forum that has hacker experiences, or something of that sort. like some sort of place for feedback. for those of you that do do honest and good work i can only see this increasing your business. just a suggestion.