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ok, then what you are saying is that anyone who ever deletes any users will never have the right count (like it is on my board), right? This is normal then and nothing to worry about? That's all I want to know. If it is the norm and the way it works for everyone, then everything is fine. I thought maybe I messed something up somewhere, that's all.
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#13
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yea, its normal, and works perfect, its is just a cosmetic problem
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#14
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*nods*
boofo, what's important here is this: try picturing the structure of your forum - a post is defined by someone's user id - after all, you can easily change their usernames in your admin panel, and that doesn't affect their posts or anything. Now try picturing what would happen if suddenly their user ID would be changed. How else would the system, vBulletin, know which post belonged to them, and which didn't? Do you see the conflict there? |
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I understand what you are saying. I just never knew how it worked until now. I guess I didn't think about the posts being tied to the userid like that. But you would think there would be a way to have the gaps removed and have all of the messages re-tied to the new user ids. I know it would be a real intense operation, but it could be done, couldn't it?
By the way, KuraFire, on your quote hack, is there a way to take the gaps out of the database when quotes are removed? I have a 4 quote difference in it. I have added more and it doesn't fill in the spaces left by the deletion of the other quotes. Or does this work the same way as the userid thing? Quote:
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#16
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it could be done, but it's totally senseless and inefficient to do so.
There is no problem with gaps in user id columns, unless you intend to use certain files which include the user id and would thus have to rename files to match the gaps - but that would be quite a senseless system for users. So why bother, then? If there's no problem, really, whatsoever, why change the very much winning formula? And yeah - my Quote hack works exactly the same. Quotes and Users are basically the same except that they hold different information and quotes hold far LESS information a record |
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I don't know if I would go as far to say it is senseless and inefficient to do that. It all depends on what you are trying to do and what you need it for. I am one who likes things in order and where they belong. To have...say...321 users but have a user with a userid of 415 doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. Not to mention, the avaerage user is going to be confused themselves about it. But, like you said, if it ain't broke, it don't need fixin'. It's just personal preference, I guess.
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hmm, somehow, user id's that don't match to the Nth member signup don't seem all that odd to me - most users never know how many'th member they are, nor do they care a whim.
Having things orderly is nice - but if you learn enough about it, you'll understand that this way, it's actually far more orderly and useful. I personally wouldn't go _just_ as far as saying it's senseless and inefficient - no, I would even go as far as saying it's completely retarded, but that's my personal opinion, though |
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I guess that's where you and I differ. I don't think anyone's idea is "retarded", no matter how much I might disagree with it.
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#20
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I never said I found your idea retarded - I said I found my picturing of doing vbulletin without auto_incrementing user id's retarded.
Yours was a general musing. And if you feel offended, I'm sorry - I definitely wasn't thinking about you while saying that.... |
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Sorry I took it personally. I knew you weren't talking directly to me when you said that, it just hit a nerve, I guess.
I agree with you on the auto-incrementing. I think that is the best way to go. I also think that talking gaps out of the auto-incrementing (or even filling in the gaps with the next new user) is something to take a look at too. Quote:
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