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Old 07-07-2014, 04:18 PM
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Also, the term "Virtual" comes to mind. You are still on a shared server but it usually means that you just have your own ip address.
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Also, the term "Virtual" comes to mind. You are still on a shared server but it usually means that you just have your own ip address.
Getting into a virtualized environment is not childs play, and would require a serious level of a dedication from the host level. At that point, they probably don't care about your node.

A VPS should be a set of resources that are setup for you, to use on your own. In some cases this is 1 or more CPU cores, and dedicated bits of ram/HDD storage.

Its not the same as shared hosting.

I'd personally OPT for a VPS over a dedicated server, until I really needed those dedicated resources.

Most VPS's will give you better specs than a dedicated server, up to a point.
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Getting into a virtualized environment is not childs play, and would require a serious level of a dedication from the host level. At that point, they probably don't care about your node.

A VPS should be a set of resources that are setup for you, to use on your own. In some cases this is 1 or more CPU cores, and dedicated bits of ram/HDD storage.

Its not the same as shared hosting.

I'd personally OPT for a VPS over a dedicated server, until I really needed those dedicated resources.

Most VPS's will give you better specs than a dedicated server, up to a point.
Many if not most lower end hosts use "VPS" as a marketing ploy. Sure you may have some very high limits on your specs but you are still on a large server being shared by many other people. We are not talking about a cloud server here.. A cloud server is often better than a dedicated in terms of specs but not a vps at least none that I have worked with. Many claim to have higher limits but again, those seem to be more about selling the service than actually what you get and those are usually limits not always readily available.

I would agree with you about sticking with a vps or lower until needed as a dedicated server is much more expensive.

I set one of my own dedicated servers up for VPS for clients and I can set many specs for them but still if I do something very resource heavy on the server all the sites are impacted no matter what there specs are set too. This happens on most vps servers because they still need to make money so they need to get many sites onto those servers. Especially the very cheap ones. If they are only charging a few bucks a month just figure they are making the money in quantity and not quality.
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Geesh you guys and your thoughts that tend to clash just KISS (keep it simple stupid) posts like these .

To sum it up webmastersun:
  • If you can manage your own VPS server then acquire a low cost/low budget VPS and enjoy.
  • If you cannot manage your own VPS server HOWEVER have someone more than qualified to do the job then still look for and acquire a low cost/low budget VPS and enjoy.
  • If you have no on earthly clue what you're doing, have no one hired nor a friend that can help then you may want to pay a bit more for a managed VPS from HostGator/1and1/Bluehost/URLJet/Other host.

These links are very helpful in regards to feedback from other vBulletin owners regarding hosting options:
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Old 07-07-2014, 07:35 PM
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No clashing bro. Zach is one of my favorites on this site.
We are just providing the details and our opinions so the op can make up his own mind.
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Clashing thoughts are ok arguing is not so why I said it was a (simple) clash of ideas on a subject. If someone was looking for a quick simple answer we've surely made them do a double-take when all we had to do was provide a few links then let them read up and decide for themselves .
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Nothing wrong with a double take.. good for the neck.

Plus, I want to warn people not to jump so quickly when getting a vps. I have dealt with crappy ones so many times that I would rather have people really do a double take then jump.

Plus, why do things simply when we can make things over complicated? If we simplify things too much around here this site will be dead.
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Geesh you guys and your thoughts that tend to clash just KISS (keep it simple stupid) posts like these .

To sum it up webmastersun:
  • If you can manage your own VPS server then acquire a low cost/low budget VPS and enjoy.
  • If you cannot manage your own VPS server HOWEVER have someone more than qualified to do the job then still look for and acquire a low cost/low budget VPS and enjoy.
  • If you have no on earthly clue what you're doing, have no one hired nor a friend that can help then you may want to pay a bit more for a managed VPS from HostGator/1and1/Bluehost/URLJet/Other host.
Cool!
I agree with your suggestions
Just having a additional question: which are advantages of VPS over shared hosting?
Speed, CPU usage, Ram...or something else?
I'm not quite clear about problem above
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We use PhotoVPS -- very good a Xen based which is better than OpenVZ (Virtuozzo) in my experience

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Cool!
I agree with your suggestions
Just having a additional question: which are advantages of VPS over shared hosting?
Speed, CPU usage, Ram...or something else?
I'm not quite clear about problem above
Some of the benefits:
- The VPS belongs to you, no one else will host on your VPS. However, there will be more VPS on the mother host of the VPS.
- More resources to yourself.
- You have your own IP address, you don't share it with others.
- No limitations software wise.
- Depending on what kind of VPS you choose, say cloud, you can upgrade or downgrade your hardware easily.

However, with a VPS, you need to set-up everything yourself. You need to install all software and secure everything by yourself. If you have no understanding of this like Zachery said, you need to hire someone to do all of it for you.
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