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like i said the first reply in this thread answered the question -
I now understand alot better of the way things work i just thought if a coder saw something that had for example 100 replies all wanting the same thing in someones head they would here the cash register 'cha ching' and will make it and release as a paid add on or something. I do understand that coders dont have all the spare time in the world, hell neither do us 'little' guys who are setting up forums, being a web designer i do know i hardly have spare time that i can just give out - so i have nothing against paying someone to help, if i get a free mod on here that has some huge impact on my site i try to make handy donations to the coder, and the ones that do not add much i try to donate at least something if i can - although honestly it sometimes slips my mind when i download something just to check it out. thanks for your replies as i said i just thought the coders could be making even more money than they do at the current moment by forfilling some of the most sought after hacks i know i would give my backing both ideas/suggestion and support wise along with financially if people wanted to enter together to make some paid addons that are highly sort after haha yes the cha ching is ringing in my head. |
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Coders usually do what they think are fun doing, or that they would use it themselves.
It's very uncommon for someone to spend a month coding something for free that they won't use, and then have to support it, out of the goodness of their hearts. Popular mods are also the worst to support. Vbookie in particular is a hard mod to do, not everyone could code it, or have the vbulletin knowledge to do it. Anyway, thats how I understand things are, I could be wrong. --------------- Added 04 Nov 2008 at 01:27 --------------- ps: also vbookie is so tied to vbulletin system, that any minor changes makes it need to be recoded, which is also a factor when a coder choose projects (or it should at least) |
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IMO, I don't make mods to charge people. I believe when you pay for VB the mods should be free (STRICTLY IMO).... Although before any of you jump my post - I have very few and some not even posted here yet however I only have time to support a few. I believe if you wanted to charge then you should be looking for work not the other way around. Maybe it's the name (TLS) but I will NEVER charge - only ask for donations. I do free websites too however I DO charge for some special requests due to the time so I see all points being made here as valid no matter if you charge/don't charge it just depends on how you make a stand when and where plus how you are perceived. So basically I think the question was good but the answer cannot be simply given, only perceived .
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hey TLS, i suppose you make a living of something else ?!... some coders don't... that's why they focus on salary... Jelsoft focus on profits too, or they would be closed... check out: installation of a vBulletin forum: 150$... it's mostly the same cost as the license itself... and they did not code a thing, just clicked 13 times before the install is done...
so imagine someone coding a 20 000 lines hack... which is different from a template modification or a new permission... |
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See what happens when you skim a topic instead of reading, as explained numerous times (and now i see why people get responses like Nexia's cause its annoying saying the same things over and over) - I did not ask a coder to do work for free, only pointing out the potential cash cow if the right topic was read and mod made, secondly vBookie was used as an example - it is not a code i want redesigned, or anything, infact i am currently in the process of phasing vbookie out of my forums as with the total rewrite of vb4 this would not work - so as said vbookie was not a script i was after and mentioned many times it was an example, i did not ask a coder to code something for free. |
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To answer the original question, Dream is very close.
There are basically 2 types of coders around on vB.org (using coders as example, but same applies to Designers). The occasional/hobby coder: - Will code (mostly) for fun. Will often release his work for free. - Will most likely code for his own website/interest and will release it when it can serve more people. This is most likely also the reason why you will find more modifications on the same topic: each has been developed for the own board of the coder without looking at existing modifications. - Might take a paid/unpaid request, but only if the topic is also of interest to the coder and time needed is limited. The profesional/fulltime coder: - Will not look at the free requests in most cases. Might pick the best suggestions to release a few free modifications that will get high installs in order to advertise his knowledge and to get more paid orders. - Will not take any low paid requests. Very likely mostly interested the better paying (time versus money) jobs. Then there are members who will take the lesser paying (often non-coding) requests. Often members who are still not considered an expert are taking these jobs and the taker will often use it to learn while on the job. |
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thanks everyone for your input i understand alot better now and like i said i didnt want to start arguements, i was just asking a question to better understand.
Thank you to all who have replied i do appreciate you taking your time. |
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I did not read this whole thread but the first 3 or so posts. vBookie is a good example I think. Like the original poster said, there are tons of the same style hacks out there. Why does someone not release a different type of bookie system that is compatible with the newer versions of vB? Just because the author will not allow someone to work with his code, doesn't mean we should just give up on the idea. vBookie is a great hack (for me) and it would be nice is someone came up with a new version since there are so many that want it for 3.7.x and soon 3.8.
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To give a slightly similar example, I took over the media definitions threads for AME when the first two thread starters just ran into some problems on the personal side of things. But I did so, largely because I realized I had a knack for Regular Expressions which I did not know I had until I investgated how the definitions worked, but more importantly, I loved the AME modification. So for me, and I imagine it would be largely the same all around, it's a matter of inspiration first and foremost. I know I've started a couple of projects that when I look at them now, I don't know what I was thinking. It would be hard for me to find the will power to want to do it, even if there was a great demand for the work (which there is). I think even offer of payment wouldn't be enough to squirrel me off my seat. So likely that's going to the number one reason behind why we don't see certain things made, even though we see a great demand for it. Conversely, there's no doubt a lot of people who'd go ahead and do their own versions of some defunct or demanded mods, but they just don't have know how to do it. I know I've had a gaming mod in mind for over a year know, but it's physical execution is just way out my league for the time being. |
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