Add-On Releases - Warhammer - Enhanced Roster

I received a lot of requests to release the roster found on my guild site.

This roster gives you a lot of additional statistics in a nice Google jsAPI hosted applet for better performance.


NOTE: Does not support EU servers at this stage!!
Unfortunately Mythic does not provide stats out of Europe.

Standard Features (all players):

• Character Name
• Class
• Race
• Rank
• Renown Rank
• Title
• javascript applet for roster table with full column sorts
  
• JSON feed
• XML feed
• Color coded "time since last login".

Additional Features (for players with curse client):

• Primary Tradeskill
• Primary Tradeskill Level
• Renown Title
• HP

Installation:
1. You must register for an API key.
API link.

2. vBadvanced (tested)
The Whirlpool Gamers website uses vBadvanced CMPS so I have created a module that can be uploaded using admincp:

• Download module xml file (below). Edit the xml file and change the API key value to that value you generated in step1.
• Open your admincp
• Select vBa CMPS left menu
• Select download / upload module
• Select module to upload, choose a style and set permissions.
• Save, then add to whichever page you want to display it. Due to the number of statistics, it makes sense for fixed width styles to have a single column page display the roster.

3. vBulletin installations. (untested as yet - please provide comments)
You will need to create a template and insert the following code:

PHP Code:

<div id="wp-container"></div>    
        <script src="http://www.google.com/jsapi"></script>
        <script type="text/javascript">
            google.load("prototype", "1.6"); 
            google.load("scriptaculous", "1.8.1");
        </script>
        <script src="http://www.wpgamers.com/api/tablekit.js"></script>
        <script src="http://www.wpgamers.com/api/tooltip.js"></script>
        <script src="http://www.wpgamers.com/api/WP.js"></script>
        <script src="http://www.wpgamers.com/api/war/<your API key>/characters.js"></script> 


Important Notes:

1. It may take several hours after you first register for an API key before we have gathered all the statistics for your guild. The data you see at first may be historical, or no data may be shown at all until the first update is completed.
2. This module is a javascript based on the popular prototype library as hosted by Google.
3. Whirlpool Gamers provides a data service from which the javascript client gets your guilds data.
4. This product cannot be used for commercial purposes without consent of the author.
5. Although highly unlikely, outages of the Whirlpool Gamers data server will result in your roster appearing blank. We accept no responsibility / liability for such issues.
6. Support is provided on a best efforts basis.

More features and enhancements to come.

[Slaxi]

for EU / German Servers you can try buffed.de

http://wardata.buffed.de/tools/guildroster

Only two lines of code must added.

Demo: http://unordentlich.net/index.php?ar...nt&contentid=4

[dodjer42]

Originally Posted by Slaxi

for EU / German Servers you can try buffed.de

That roster contains hardly any stats at all. We can collect the same information for EU servers, but its so limited it almost provides no value.

[KrisJacobs]

The API Registration link here: http://www.wpgamers.com/api_registration.html

Appears to be broken - the server list is not populated...

Maybe that has something to do with why my roster does not currently work. It worked fine when I implemented, then seemed to stop working sometime in the past 24 hours...

http://www.nexmorbus.org/cmps_index.php?pageid=roster


I very much appreciate your work and effort toward this awesome mod, but could we please have this code opened up (or at least offered for sale), so we can implement on our own, without having to rely on an intermediate 'data service'?

I'd like to see this roster product packaged in such a way that I can implement and talk directly to WarDB without having to rely on anyone else - except maybe Google APIs.

Thanks!

[KrisJacobs]

Ah I see - #5:

Although highly unlikely, outages of the Whirlpool Gamers data server will result in your roster appearing blank. We accept no responsibility / liability for such issues.

I need to be able to run this w/o anyone acting as such an intermediary - if I can't, I have to find another roster solution.

[dodjer42]

Hey Kris, the problem is resolved.

If you want to be able to get the data directly, you will have to code your own or wait for someone else to release it.

[KrisJacobs]

Uninstalled.

It works one day, then doesn't work the next - with zero changes made to my vB & VBAdvanced instance. Roster is fine one day, then completely blank the next.

While this is the best looking roster implementation currently, I cannot in good conscience implement something that I don't have 100% control over, so I can fix it when it breaks. Having a middle-man between me and the raw data is unacceptable.

This project is too closed-source for my tastes.

[Replicators]

It would be nice if the same was made for age of conan, warhammer to me seems to be a wow ripoff. I played the beta of it, and i could swear i was playing wow, just with a worse ui interface is all.

[dodjer42]

Originally Posted by KrisJacobs

Uninstalled.

It works one day, then doesn't work the next - with zero changes made to my vB & VBAdvanced instance. Roster is fine one day, then completely blank the next.

While this is the best looking roster implementation currently, I cannot in good conscience implement something that I don't have 100% control over, so I can fix it when it breaks. Having a middle-man between me and the raw data is unacceptable.

This project is too closed-source for my tastes.

Kris of course you are entitled to your opinion, but I would have hoped that given the time I spent chatting to you early on, and helping you find a forum style and other pieces that you would have shown some candor.

The only reason to access source is to make modifications. If you need to make modifications you must know how to develop in php. If you know how to develop in php, why not develop your own?

The reason our stats went blank twice was due to realmwar not responding and a bug we fixed wasnt handling realmwar outages. Realmwar was offline due to what appears to be extremely high server load. This is likely a result of people implementing poor stats gathering code. The code we developed is extremely low touch. If someone modified our code even slightly, by purpose or accident, it could cause a denial of service on realmwar and wardb. If that happened, then realmwar and wardb might hold us responsible, ban our client or something worse.

I'm sorry you expected so much from a free addon. Sometimes you just cant please people, even when you give them something for free.

[KrisJacobs]

It's not about modification, it's about control.

Things out of my administrative control are uncomfortable to use.

The only thing I expect from you at this point is that you continue to hold your code close to the vest, with the final goal of generating revenue from it. And there's nothing wrong with that - I'd rather pay for the whole package than participate in your current 'free' model.

Edit:
I had 'free with restrictions' - but that's not quite right. It's more like a holier-than-thou attitude of "you can have this part of the code, but this part you cannot have because it's far too dangerous to be entrusted to just anyone". That's what really bugs me - the condescension implied in stating you cannot release part of the code because the world is not worthy enough to possess it.

Who the heck are you to judge that people aren't capable of using the code responsibly?

[dodjer42]

Originally Posted by KrisJacobs

It's not about modification, it's about control.

Things out of my administrative control are uncomfortable to use.

The only thing I expect from you at this point is that you continue to hold your code close to the vest, with the final goal of generating revenue from it. And there's nothing wrong with that - I'd rather pay for the whole package than participate in your current 'free' model.

Lets clarify a few things. There is three components to this solution.

1) the javascript viewer
2) the data feed itself
3) the backend that builds the data

The javascript viewer is open source (has to be).
The data is made available to all.
The backend is run by WPGamers just as wardb and realmwar run their own backend.

We never claimed the back end would be made available except through the JSON and XML feed. And it seems you infer that their is some inherent risk in this model? You dont have to use our javascript. You could write your own PHP code to display the data.

Originally Posted by KrisJacobs

Edit:
I had 'free with restrictions' - but that's not quite right. It's more like a holier-than-thou attitude of "you can have this part of the code, but this part you cannot have because it's far too dangerous to be entrusted to just anyone". That's what really bugs me - the condescension implied in stating you cannot release part of the code because the world is not worthy enough to possess it.

Who the heck are you to judge that people aren't capable of using the code responsibly?

While you are seeking source code, why not complain to Mythic for not giving you source to Warhammer? Hell, why not ask wardb for their source code?

And please stop with the personal threats in PMs. It's childish.