"THIEVES AMONG US" He Stole my Logo!

[Lynne]

I think I agree with another user that this thread is a bit premature if you haven't even contacted the guy. He most likely has no clue that you have a copyright on it and just thought it was cool to use.

I hate Cease and Desist letters. At least be nice when you write it. I've gotten some where the people are jerks and it doesn't make me feel like doing what they want.

[iogames]

Thanks Lynne, I discovered the Logo last night when I was checking some code and answering some threads.
The point isn't if there's wrongdoing or not, THERE IS. and everybody here face tough problems on the daily basis, but once we sit at the computer reality got somehow distorted.
We know I can win this one outside, my point is why Jelsoft software allows steal of private property, why the Rank Officers allow it, what is the protection criteria between copyright Artwork & Code, and how big must be the crime to apply norms and principles?

P.S. Yes contacted the guy, got his info, but once again, 'it happened in your house'

[SEOvB]

Dude relax, again its not jelsofts responsibility to monitor whats on everyones site. Jelfsoft doesn't know or care if you have a copyright for it, and i can guarantee that none of the staff really care either other then the fact this thread is taking up their space

[iogames]

Originally Posted by FRDS

Dude relax, again its not jelsofts responsibility to monitor whats on everyones site. Jelfsoft doesn't know or care if you have a copyright for it, and i can guarantee that none of the staff really care either other then the fact this thread is taking up their space

In which bar did u finish law school?
I'm not saying Jelsoft is responsable, his site is with GoDaddy, Inc. he recieve money from Google, Inc. he paid a License to Jelsoft, LLC and:

See THIS?
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[SEOvB]

my point is why Jelsoft software allows steal of private property, why the Rank Officers allow it,

Sounds an awful lot like your passing some blame. Again its a logo, yes i realize its copyrighted, but again you are going about this 85% wrong.

[iogames]

Originally Posted by FRDS

i can guarantee that none of the staff really care either other then the fact this thread is taking up their space

I didn't know u have mental powers to talk for the rest.

Not you don't have Avatar, 'u can feel my pain' so isn't blaming.

Interesting your theory about the 85%

So lets say you go to my home, and someone steal from you? besides from seek justice how are you 85% wrong?

P.S. When Google Spiders crawl this thread they would Index: "I got stole" & "We don't care"

[SEOvB]

If you consider posting in a internet forum about soemthing as trival and minute as someone using an your logo as an avatar has justice, then more power to you.

And If someone stole my house, and i knew who it was like you do, I'd contact them first ask for my stuff back, then i'd go with the following steps, NO where would i make a stop in the town square seeking revenge and justice from the masses for me.

[budatalk]

iogames, no offence, but I think that you are not right for 2 reasons.

I honestly don't know the legal details, so strictly legally speaking you might be 100% right.

But common logically:

1- This is the design of the ON/OFF button, it's not new, and i don't understand how the symbol can be "owned". Although you have done some nice rendering and coloring.
2- Using your logo, or any logo, as an avatar and for non-profit purposes isn't much a big problem. The only reason you should be angry is if someone took your logo and is making profit out of it.

Instead, you should feel flattered, that you did such a good work and people are actually using it as avatar.

You know, on a funny note, I am a Phoenician descendant, and I don't know if you know, but the Phoenicians invented the alphabet, from which all latin, greek, cyrillic, arabic, hebrew alphabets came from. Can you imagine if I am granted royalties for every letter or derived letter used in the world, how much of a fortune I would make?

[iogames]

Back in Office

The 'i' & 'o' embedded on the design plus the lettering level to 'substance' for registering...
I'm adding some electronic circuit and waiting on the copyright office for note in a derivative work.

There's an Electronic Convention here in L.A. and they have a sign who looks alike, even Staples launched service with a design alike...BUT NOT COPY & PASTE!

If I start using logo from Moderators rest assured I will get slammed;and you say 100% right?

Let's say I will open an account on his site, posting a 'Cease & Decease letter' I screenshot or download the page, he banned me or erase my post with vBulletin products, then we are talking abut liability!
But I'm using common sense, it's not the first time someone steal copyrighted work from here...

Phoenician Uh? after 500+/- years a Copyright expires and pass to be public domain...

[KTBleeding]

IO, being a victim of "code theft" myself, I can see where your frustration is coming from. However, you have suppled a screen shot of someone using your avatar.. as an avatar. It's really hard to take it seriously when it is just being used as an avatar. Had the guy been using it as his logo on his website, and claiming as his own work.. that's a different story.

My avatar is taken from a music video drawn by Todd McFarlane. I'm sure the music video is copy written, but I don't believe that anyone is going to care to track it down and make it be removed.. and technically, I'm not breaking any laws. I'm not claiming this avatar as my own work or anything.

I guess my point is: Most avatars on forums are of copy written material. Not many people are going to take the time to design some custom image to use, and even when they do, someone might like it and want to use it as their avatar.. and legally, there is nothing wrong with it.