I think I've had enough

[bashy]

Its a sad time when a respected member decides to leave, More so after all the hard work they have contributed, After all it is thier work that keeps a place like this as popular as it is!!

I know from experience what its like to be singled out, I was once more popular and respected than the staff on a certain forum and my life was made hell, they picked up on the slightest of mistake and i was banned for life, albeit your leaving of your own accord but it can be classed as constructive!

I have only been here since November so i dont really know the ins and outs of said issues, I have noticed a few members being abrupt in posts but i take this with a pinch of salt, this is just the way forums are.....

Peeps generally type how it sounds in there head, it may sound completely different to another member, it all depend on how you want to read into it. You will always get this on forums, more so 1 of this size...

Its a shame you cant work this out with the parties invovled and stick around, your hacks/addons are great and i have prob tried most if not all for my version of VB

I do hope that you reconsider, if not good luck in with what you venture in to next and take care!!!

[The Geek]

Originally Posted by MarcoH64

nothing special going on here.

Exactly!!! Its all going somewhere else

People come and go from communities - that is for certain. However when serious contributors are bullied out - there is a problem. Couple that with the fact that you're those bailing are the ones that give your customers a reason to come on to this site and you have a serious problem. Surely losing actual contributing customers from this site should spark more than a 'hoo hum. It's only another coder leaving'.

Most staff are apathetic. They just want their lives to be easier (after all, they volunteer their time here). Therefore they think its an improvement if more of the vocal users bailed (even if they are the ones contributing work for the site).

Eventually, Livewires farewell thread will be buried. He'll be gone, .org will continue to run the same tired ship in the same tired direction - ignoring those customers and contributors that scream to go someplace different. More coders will jump ship and soon you'll be left with an empty hold.

Instigating some change. Celebrating the talent that contributes around here.

Your user to producder ration just went further out of whack

[Boofo]

As usual, sir, you're blowing things way out of proportion and making predictions that are never going to happen. You talk about tiresome.

[Logikos]

Yes, this thread will get closed/moved and buried. The staff will say that this doesn't belong in this forum even when the forum clearly states to Please let us know what you think about us in here!.

Like The Geek said, Instigating some change and celebrating the talent that contributes around here will begin to move this forum back in the direct it used to be in. Untill that happens this will be an ongoing circle. Sooner or later vBulletin is going to release another major version and no one will be able to get great hacks with out paying for them.

[Paul M]

Originally Posted by Zachery

They are not, they are just part of the community, the other 99.99% of the users on this site are its lifeblood. Not a few users who do happen to code hacks.

Really ? - how long do you think the site would last if the "few users who do happen to code hacks" stopped and left ?

According to the modifications page there are ;

User Statistics: Coder: 390, Advanced Coder: 53, Master Coder: 11

I would guess that less than 75% of them are still active (actually it's probably worse than that). You are right that no one coder should be considered more important, but in reality some do play a much more active role than others, and alienating them is not going to do you any good - and remember, as a group they are very important - no coders = no mods = no site - it's pretty much as simple as that.

[Princeton]

I think after spending 4 years here, releasing over 30 hacks, which could take someone hours, weeks, or even months deserves the right to state there opions to the rest of the community, and post a farewell thread if they feel the need to. To be honest, any member who feels the need to leave should have the option to create a post about it. You welcome introduction threads here, why not welcome farewell threads?

Your'e absolutely correct.
In fact, I agree with a lot that has been said (from all parties).

NOTE: This "farewell thread" should go into the LOUNGE fourm -- not the SITE FEEDBACK forum. Hence, I moving the thread.

[kurtbarker]

I was happy to leave this thread alone until I saw this

They are not, they are just part of the community, the other 99.99% of the users on this site are its lifeblood. Not a few users who do happen to code hacks

ok, that is 'technically' true, you can say that all members contribute to the site, but it wouldn't suprise me if to every 1 coder, if there where 100 non-coders... [someone correct me if you get accurate stats], so that would mean to every coder that left, you could say you're losing 100 members, because that would be the ratio... what would happen if all 450 odd coders left, you reckon the few thousand non-coders could keep this place together? what is vBulletin.org without hacks?

I seriously hope that the coders here do stay, and I am really sorry if you have made up your mind... You guyz are the lifeblood of this place, even if the moderators refuse to see that

[stinger2]

They are not, they are just part of the community, the other 99.99% of the users on this site are its lifeblood. Not a few users who do happen to code hacks

how odd..that was also the reason i responded to this thread....lol

[Tralala]

Originally Posted by Princeton

NOTE: This "farewell thread" should go into the LOUNGE fourm -- not the SITE FEEDBACK forum. Hence, I moving the thread.

Sorry, this gave me a chuckle.

Carry on.

[Immortal]

Originally Posted by Zachery

They are not, they are just part of the community, the other 99.99% of the users on this site are its lifeblood. Not a few users who do happen to code hacks.

It's that kind of attitude made vB.org what it is now. I may be rather new to vB.org but I can sense a problem, and that just supports it.