"Coders discussion" forum is now a private forum.

[Darat]

I don't think that is a good analogy - a nearer one would be not to let anyone not already a weight lifter even watch a weight lifting competition until they've become a weight lifter!

I think it is very reasonable to not allow "unqualified" people to actually participate given the stated reasons for having such a section, it's just I think it was (and that was how it was originally set up) a good resource for people wanting to learn - which as I have said is shame.

[Azhrialilu]

Not to be funny, but there are a million and one good resources out there for people wanting to learn how to code - access to one extra forum isn't gonna make someone an expert coder any faster.

[Darat]

Yes there are but not that many dealing with vBulletin coding, it's certainly not earth-shatteringly important - just a shame.

[Code Monkey]

Originally Posted by Darat

It could be that there are some very experienced and very good programmers who hang about here that for whatever reason haven't posted a hack and therefore the coders miss out on that groups programming experience.

Then I have no interest in their opinion regarding vBulletin. If I want to discuss with good coders who don't give to this community then I will go to Sitepoint or other sites that offer a far more broad coding discussion than is available here.

[Azhrialilu]

Sorry, Darat but I just dont see why it's a big deal - there are enough forums on Vb.org to ask questions about vBulletin coding already.

I'm not a coder, so I don't have any vested interest in this forum, but I can see why they'd prefer to keep it quiet. Think about it, in public forum if one coder comes up with a new idea, 10 people instantly jump on them wanting to know when it'll be started, beta-tested, out for release... if they can discuss it in the relative quiet of a private forum, the chances are the idea will become a release faster.

I mean - would you demand micosoft not allow any private forums on their own site regarding new ideas - so you can watch how they develop their software? Don't think they'd agree to that somehow. Look what happened when they released some of the earlier versions of windows (ME in particular) because of the pressure to get it out - the bugs in it were outrageous - would you want all hacks released under the same kind of pressure - obviously slightly dilluted - here?

[Logikos]

Round n Round we go. I don't see this being open to non-coders now, so I wouldn't waste your time complaining. If you don't like the idea, go read some tutorials.

[Daniel]

Originally Posted by LiveWire

If you don't like the idea, go read some tutorials.

That's what I've been doing for the past six months, looks like it finally paid off (I got the "Coder" status today )

[Code Monkey]

Originally Posted by Daniel

That's what I've been doing for the past six months, looks like it finally paid off (I got the "Coder" status today )

And found out there has only been two posts in there since it went private.

[Logikos]

Originally Posted by JumpD

And found out there has only been two posts in there since it went private.

Not quite.

[Gio~Logist]

Now only is the coders forum a place for complex coding talk and such, however, it is also a place where coders can get advice from other coders. If other members are allowed to view this forum, useless posts may be made and such. Also, there are some things in which people feel more comfortable sharing with other coders (such as works in progress, etc.).

As far as learning how to code is concerned. I learned from studying other hacks and looking at some tutorials i found here. All the resources needed are here on this forum. What you do with the information and content is up to you.