What do you think about people wich release your hacks already for vb3?

[Floris]

He copied a hack I released on vbulletin.nl and vbulletin.org and released it here as his own work, this was recogn. and removed by the admins. I am pretty sure he has just made more hacks 'his own work'.

[Dean C]

Well the reason I don't allow your community or any other community to translate my hacks is because you're not official. Simple as that. You could have unlicensed users there being given hacks which I do not agree with whatsoever. But we're drifting off topic...

[Floris]

To who was that post reply mist?

[Boofo]

They can re-do my worthless hacks all they want. I am doing new ones and most of them I will keep for myself. Too many members here care about the hack count more than they care about quality coding. Lesane did quality coding. And Logician and a few others that you don't see around as much as you used to. It stopped being fun. I miss the old days.

Just my 3 1/2 cents worth.

And Lesane, you've become quite a beauty since you were last here (your avatar). If only I weren't married.

[Dean C]

It was directed to Sophocle - not you floris

[KuraFire]

Originally Posted by Faranth

taking an idea is just that,

a now playing hack has been done to death

the store hack, is going to be done to death

CMS / Portals will be done to death

All of those have been done to death for a while already. I'd say about 4 months. And none of the new versions really have anything new to add, be it functionality wise, code wise or interface wise. To me, it's like those people just want to get well-known here by leeching off of a successful concept. The ancient old "everyone wants to get their share of the pie" consensus. Not that that's such a bad thing, but when it means that less and less people are putting effort into new, unique, revolutionary ideas, it becomes a bit of a bore and a nuisance.

Originally Posted by Faranth

just because YOU released it first on vb.org doesnt mean you were the FIRST to do it.

Very important line, there.
Sure, people won't like to see their work or idea repeated / redone by someone else, on the very same site even, but as much as vB.org says that every Hack is Copyright their respective owner, nobody here has ever patented their hack concept, and copyrighting your hack does not prevent others (legally or otherwise) to make the same thing with their own efforts. It's not entirely nice, but aside of b!tching and yelling, there's little you can do against it.

Originally Posted by Faranth

im sure before you released it someone else was doing it on their own forums and just didnt release it, let alone might it even been on vBulletin. hell is the store hack even 100% your own idea?

He might've come up with it on his own, but I had a 'store hack'-like system running on my site well before I ever saw his store hack appear here. Note that I'm not implying that he got the idea off of mine, however. I'm quite sure that that's not the case, cos his store hack's contents and mine are 100% different.
Anyway, back on topic...

I've released a vB3-port today. The Miserable Users hack. Why didn't I wait for the original author to release it?
- I haven't seen Zzed say anywhere s?he was planning on making a vB3-port of the hack;
- I had already ported it for a buddy of mine and then installed it on my own site as well (so basically the port was already done);
- people were asking all over the place for the port to be made;
- I made sure to fully credit Zzed as the original hack author and creator of the concept in my Hack, in both the thread as the hack code itself. I only claimed ownership of the port, not of the Hack as it is, itself.

With all that, I figured it wouldn't be a big deal that I released it instead of sitting around with the Hack and depriving others of it. That all, and the fact that the Miserable Users hack isn't a majorly big thing. It's not a Store Hack or anything, it's a rather simple thing that has been reduced to a no-file-edits, template-based hack (phpinclude_start template). If Zzed contacts me and wishes me to remove my thread so he can release his port himself (if he even bothers making a port and re-doing what I've already done, that is), I'll comply. It is still his Hack, in my eyes, and I've no wish to take away from that fact.

If someone whose hack I port over to vB3 does not wish me to do so, I'll remove it without a fuss. For bigger hacks, I wouldn't port but just make my own thing from scratch, be it original or based off of an existing hack (that I may or may not know of).

As such, I don't see the harm in others doing the same with my hacks, though for the bigger hacks I personally recommend others not to bother with porting them over to vB3 - I'm rewriting them all and adding to them immensely, in ways that no other will be doing during a port.

[Lesane]

Originally Posted by Boofo

And Lesane, you've become quite a beauty since you were last here (your avatar). If only I weren't married.

haha , offtopic: how are you doing boofo? Long time no see

[Lesane]

btw.. Faranth, i hope you do know what you throw/say at a forum and hope you could point me to my security holes in my store hack and why the code sucks badly. ::sarcastic::

I am very suprised about these php'ers wich think they all that, they all whine about my code but none of them could improve my code. People over vbulletin.nl are whining about my code but none could say why or could improve it.

Just don't talk about any security holes in my store hack if there aren't any.

[Floris]

This thread turning into a personal rant thread?
Please don't generalize the members on my web site.
I'd hate having to ask a staff member to close the thread because things are getting out of hand. I rather continue on a normal conversation.

[Gary King]

Originally Posted by floris

He copied a hack I released on vbulletin.nl and vbulletin.org and released it here as his own work, this was recogn. and removed by the admins. I am pretty sure he has just made more hacks 'his own work'.

What hack are you talking about? The administrators are able to read user's PMs one? You really think I copied that from you?

If the thread wasn't deleted, then I would have asked you to look again. Anyways, I believe the hack is still there (just invisible to regular users like you and me, but staff can see it still) so they could check the code and I can assure you that I didn't copy a single thing from your code