but in the same stroke, i'm highly critical, the delay has really effected .orgs userbase, threads don't get the same attention, hacks are not coming out as much and to make it worse those that do wanna release hacks aint allowed to as .com requested they didn't (i can understand saying when gamma comes out no gamma hacks, altho as they said RC should be days behind they shouldn't even do that, but i can't say not letting no vb3 hacks here whatsoever has been a good move, especially on what is essentially a hacked vb3 board, their should be atleast a sub-forum or allowing users to post vb3 hacks if they release a vb2 version) .org has just got the raw end of this deal all round, i mean amy mods GHD and since she's working on vb3 can't come around much and when she does can't offer much support as she's no longer familiar with the code. .org has really been suffering because of this.