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Old 03-19-2003, 05:15 PM
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@dog - I don't have to prove it - It is common knowledge...

No...I am not a victim of propaganda - I am anti-war, because American and Britain have had a "guns a blazing" attitude...

I can say, that although Saddam has performed attrocities to his own people, the UN sanctions on Iraq have caused alot of deaths...

Yes - The UN does have power - Saddam just refuses to acknowledge it...

To be honest, I am entitled to my opinion - I thought this could become a debate on the rightness and wrongness of war, not personal attacks on whether someone is a victim of propaganda or not...

Whatever anyone says here today, the US and Britain are going to war, and there is nothing we can do to stop it...I don't agree with it, but at the end of the day, if that is all they feel they can do, then I guess they have done the best that they can...Personally, I feel more could have been done before military action was necessary, but I will now say that although I don't agree, I do not condemn the idea of action being taken, I just fear that it will be done wrongly, and get lots of innocent Iraqis killed...

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Old 03-19-2003, 05:30 PM
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NO WAR IN IRAK!

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Old 03-19-2003, 05:44 PM
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Yup Karsten...

Meiner Meinung nach, ist George Bush bl?d

A mon avi, George Bush est b?te

^In my opinion, George Bush is stupid

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In any language, it all sounds good

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Old 03-19-2003, 05:45 PM
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@ Hellsatan, du sprichst 3 Sprachen?
Du hast v?llig recht!
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Old 03-19-2003, 05:50 PM
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Ja Karsten...Ich sprache 2 Fremdsprachen...Ich will Spanisch und Italienisch lernen...

Danke

Wie gehts?

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Old 03-19-2003, 05:50 PM
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I come from a strong military background as both my parents and numerous aunts/uncles are currently serving or have served in the US Air Force. Currently my little sister is in the AF.

I think war sucks. As do many of you. Who could possibly like war? But this doesn't mean it's not necessary at times. At right now, I think it's about necessary.

I am pro-peace and if it takes war to get there, then so be it. I know that sounds like an odd statement, but it seems to work quite well.

While a peaceful solution to disarming Iraq would be nice - it's already failed. France, Germany, Russia, and the others say we need to wait longer for Iraq to comply with weapon's inspectors and disarm. However, it's already been many months of non-compliance from the Iraq government. Only recently have the Iraqi's been forthright with some of their weapons. How much longer should we wait? Until it's too late?

Boofo already stated the main key in the debate - the Men in power have a lot more information than the commonman does. IE - There are probably hundreds of viable reasons to disarm Iraq immediately, including intercepted threats directly from Iraq, that we do not hear about as it's "classified" information.

I don't necessarily agree with everything the American government does. And I don't necessarily agree with the way Bush presents the issues to the public. But I do agree that a country should support their government as best they can. We live in a democracy which gives us the freedom to like or dislike our leaders. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't support the people who are working hard to keep our freedom intact and keep the global community in peace.


ETA.... Iraq has previously been unwilling to comply with requests to prove their weapons stockhold or prove that the weapons in question have been destroyed. However, Saddam has made such serious threats against us that basically tells me he has the weapons he's been lying about this whole time. If he has truly been complying with the UN Resolution, allowing inspectors to do their jobs, showing proof of disarmament/destroying weapons - then his threats have no basis.
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Old 03-19-2003, 05:53 PM
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Today at 01:44 PM hellsatan said this in Post #23
Yup Karsten...

Meiner Meinung nach, ist George Bush bl?d

A mon avi, George Bush est b?te

^In my opinion, George Bush is stupid

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Mindless babble.... oh that is my oppinion.
I find great comfort knowing that you are not in a position to let evil CONTINUE to waste human lives.
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My view is - I can not improve on the last post made by ROSE. I will add this though: Bush was right, and the UN and the major nations against the war were all against it because of corruption.
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Old 12-06-2004, 05:06 PM
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All you people that cried about the UN not giving the go ahead for us to go to war... what do you have to say about the Oil for Food scandals?Are you just going to brush those off and continue to show your ignorance by bashing Bush?

I'm sick of France, Germany and Russia. More so now than ever with the oil for food scandals.

Its just pure ignorance
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Old 12-06-2004, 10:23 PM
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The silence is deafening.
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