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Old 07-14-2014, 10:27 PM
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Did this sale actually go through? Godaddy now owns IB and vB?
Yes, and No.

The sale happened. Godaddy does not own IB [or vB]. In simple terms, the same parent company owns both.
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Old 07-14-2014, 10:39 PM
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Yes, and No.

The sale happened. Godaddy does not own IB [or vB]. In simple terms, the same parent company owns both.
I know.
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Old 07-15-2014, 02:23 PM
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The largest issue is the fact we don't have the php hook/plugin system or a proper replacement for it.
I disagree. IMO the largest issue is that many of the people that made vb 3 & 4 mods have left and gone to another software platform. I see it all the time, you check when the developers was last on vb.org and its been months or longer.
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Old 07-15-2014, 02:25 PM
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I disagree. IMO the largest issue is that many of the people that made vb 3 & 4 mods have left and gone to another software platform. I see it all the time, you check when the developers was last on vb.org and its been months or longer.
And a big part of the reason for that is that there's no plugin system for them to work with.
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Old 07-15-2014, 03:29 PM
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And a big part of the reason for that is that there's no plugin system for them to work with.
Amen
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Old 07-15-2014, 03:36 PM
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So plugins are integral to vbulletin functionality and development? It seems so.

Any idea why the plugin system was removed from the software?
No, plugins are deemed important to the modding community. I only know this because the modding community themselves have said so.

I do not know the thinking behind removing them. Technically they weren't removed, they just weren't weren't built into the new vB5 code.

It's possible to write add ons without them but it's harder and it's quite a learning curve.
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Old 07-15-2014, 03:59 PM
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Zachery I like you bud but if common sense does not tell you nor management that its a priority then I've lost all hope for you.
Very well said. Could not agree more.
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Old 07-15-2014, 06:25 PM
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Well, if something integral was not included in a piece of software, and the software was known for this feature by the modders, then a cynical view is that maybe v5 was to make vbulletin a more exclusive product by not allowing your average joe the ability to learn how to create plugins and addons.:down:

The learning curve can't be that bad, but I'm speaking as a person with a CS background that will finish up the CS degree fairly soon.
Your seeing conspiracy theories where none exist.

Whatever the rights and wrongs of the end result, the original intention was to make things better. It always is.

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Very well said. Could not agree more.
Zachery, like myself, is just explaining how best to help drive such change forward.

Neither he, nor I, nor any of the support team, actually make such decisions.

What I will say, is that it's surprising how much change HAS been effected, by doing things via the 'right' channels. Voting is a part of that.

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Old 07-15-2014, 06:46 PM
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It's not a conspiracy theory. I quantified my view as cynical. The view, while not supported, is there. Instead of view, we can call it an interpretation, however, it is not meant to be hostile. It is just discussion, that is all.

Secondly, vb5 was supposed to make things better, but it is evident that it came with sacrifice and change.
Cynical it may be, I'm merely observing that it is also wrong.
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