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as i m not vb expert but i've done the maximum i can and i m not stopping and every day try to make my site more advanced. but if VB team could help us to implement new ideas via programming (which currently i cannot) we can make VB a totally different.. and my next target to chnage the complete look of user profile page on my forum |
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Also the thread title is just misleading |
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A large number of vB/IB bashers are not customers of vbulletin either.
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For everyone who followed this thread, I had some doubts about XF, but this is coming straight from yet another founder of XF. So it became crystal clear now how these guys operates XF. It is ironic that they would act that way when they were the first to whine and appeal to members during their litigation time with IB asking for everyone's support and saying that they are the better people and the good guys, they were opportunists.
So for everyone, think again before buying a XF, they will certainly censor you if they find you criticizing them, that logic is garbage and shows that they are insecure about their own product quality, and that is why it fails when you give few developers the ability to start their own company and act as managers as well, they have experience in web developing may be but not with providing current or future customer satisfaction. In business, no way should you act that way especially if you are going to sell a product. You can't compare 10 years in business like VB with different level of teams and departments to an opportunist 1 year in business like XF which is founded by 2 web developers (Mike & Kier) and a 1 business manager (Ashely). If you love hypocrites ^ who loves to violate their own terms and rules, be my guess. So Brogan, one of their staff, has the right to mention my name with lies to secure the way XF looks but I don't have the right for my response to him to be approved and shown publicly to address his lies but it gets moderated and deleted. What kind of delusional people are they. If vb did anything like this, and started restricting members profiles because they criticized vb itself for the past 10 years, vb wouldn't have survived all these years and their reputation would have been tainted as one of the bad companies. Xenforo just won this title. Give it a try and start testing XF's behavior, you won't be surprised by their treatment. This is not a one case scenario, this is a matter of good principles and i certainly dislike sugar coating. For them to censor my replies, they are extremely insecure and they appear to love controlling member's responses toward their product, but what they don't get is that they can't control and censor people's critic outside of their own forum, and i certainly will not invest in XF in the future. And because i didn't violate their rules, my account is not banned but rather they are giving me a limited account access (can't pm my friends, my replies and topics are all being send to moderation). Imagine if you bought XF and later criticize it just to find that your account was limited and found that any comment or topic you made is moderated and that you can't pm any of your friends at all (function removed). I wonder how you will feel. Brogan actually had to say a lie such as a "disgruntle Xenforo customer who couldn't get it to work properly" just to make it sound that XF is actually better than VB. When i never bought XF in the first place. http://i.imgur.com/TJGpqQY.png <-- (they never approved this reply at all but deleted it) and they are most likely lurking this topic Garbage business model. And for the record, they haven't denied bashing. |
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The title of this thread should read Xenforo vs katie hunter
This user has some problem with XF team and want us to jump to a conclusion that xenforo suxx. No point of this thread and i am not gonna waste my time here. |
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2. You've made your point before, yes don't waste your time here and go back to XF. 3. You forgot to tell everyone that your mad at me for blocking you on skype, we did a project in the past (not even you, your buddy did who left you later) and we moved on, you certainly can't get over that fact and will bump in several threads where i reply like this one, same can be said about Jacquii (you guys should put me on your ignore list, and you won't have to read my comments). But these personal attacks should stay off topic, you guys don't have to pop in topics i reply in to attack me or change the subject. That is just how things are for both of you : ) can't change that. We don't have to bash VB/IB just so you can stay happy. This was about ex vb developers (Mike & Kier) who ceased an opportunity and made a product and sales $$ from working with VB in the past, they didn't market XF from the start nor were they new developers bringing a new vision with potential product to the forum market. They were ex vb developers, who left VB and ceased an opportunity and marketed off bashing VB/IB and their involvement in a valid litigation by allowing their members to do so and to this day, they haven't stopped. That is how they made sales, especially taking advantage of the havoc which were against vb 4.x and later 5.x. They ceased that opportunity. It is called dirty business, only you will hear about it on Wall Street. Take it this way, i have a company, and i spend several years in promoting it and later some of my staff, we let them go for whatever reason but they made a company similar to ours and because they were popular in my company, they stole some of my traffic and members, how would you feel about that ? Every one should ask this question. This is the same scenario with XF vs VB/IB. Many didn't see it that way because of how they disliked VB 5.x but this is the reality and it shouldn't be shattered because of vb 5.x. Vb 5.x will improve, if you know, VB 5.x is made from scratch using a custom framework made by VB but with XF they are using Zend framework http://www.zend.com/en/ , http://framework.zend.com/ instead of starting from the scratch because it takes time to built a framework from scratch. Don't promote XF while bashing VB because you're disappointed with the version they release that doesn't look good, changes come with time. |
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1. Then create one for yourself. 2. I don't remember saying that i am gonna move to XF, many of my clients still use vB and i provide support for them. 3. Hahaha Wait, was it a multi million project? which makes me go mad at you. I don't give a damn about you/ your projects. I don't want to people to jump in to a false conclusion and you can't digest the facts. Of-course that wasn't a custom coded skin and even here you are just trying to prove that you are right with your Xenforo bashing. |
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