Well, this is not fair Xenforo Vs IB and we are in the middle.

[Bram H]

Originally Posted by BirdOPrey5

Oh really... can you make custom BB codes yet? No?

Can you upload smileys directly from the Admin CP yet? No?

Does it have Blogs or Articles yet? No?

Does it have Multi-quote yet? Kind of? You mean i have to scroll all the way back up again each time I hit reply? So No?

Does it have a way to leave comments when you "Like" something? No?

Does it have 1800 FREE modifications? No? Does it have ANY free modifications anymore? That's a serious question, I haven't looked in a while.

Does everyone need all the features above? Of course not- but there is no way you can say it has surpassed vBulletin in functionality... In stability, yes, perhaps- but simpler software is easier to keep bug free.

Truth is XF hasn't even hit VB 3.x level of features yet, let alone VB 4.x.

It may well surpass VB4 one day, but it hasn't happened yet. I don't hate XenForo mind you, but reality is reality. The only forum software I truly despise is IPB.

Some of the things you list it doesn't have. But I think you are looking at the software from a administrator perspective.

What really counts is how users rate the software and from our experience in the last two years its nothing but positive after people have adapted to the new forum software.

User experience is king imo.

The free add-ons, I actually avoid. Paying a tiny bit to a proper developer ensures me that there will be ongoing support, improvements and so far every installed payware mod (with exception of one) has worked out very nicely.

If vB4 and 5 are so feature rich and good, how come vb.org is still using the 3.x series since 1978?

The fact that you react so agitated to my honest comments makes me realize i shouldn't have replied to this topic in the first place.

I am not a vBulletin hater, on the contrary, still owe my old licenses from back in the days and if vB6 or 7 will be better than other forum software out there Ill migrate back without a hesitation. As said: user experience is king, so the challenge is all yours.