Because if they're selling it, it should be fit for consumption: it should work. This isn't shareware, there should be refunds for anyone with an unfixable problem. They're just begging to be sued.
If that were the criterion for being able to sue people, then I should be able to sue for every car I've owned. Ever. "Because they're selling" is terrible reasoning for "I should buy it", without doing a shred of research. I check the reviews before I buy a .99 cent app.
It's sad I know but have you seen how many people don't use forums any more, and how hard it is to get members for your forum and then to be able to keep them interested.
They say facebook does not harm forums, well I beg to differ on that one.
It will someday go the way of MySpace though. Might take a little longer due to mobile addiction, but it will.
It will someday go the way of MySpace though. Might take a little longer due to mobile addiction, but it will.
Keep in mind, the reason MySpace "went out", as the saying goes, is because MySpace was ultimately a terrible service. The code was dated and slow. Users could customize their pages to the extent that they typically bogged it down with videos and music embeds that slowed it even more. (And was never valid embed code.) And the ability to use custom CSS resulted in some of the most god-awful color combinations you could ever possibly imagine in your worst, fever-induced nightmares.
Add to all that, there was nothing to do there. There was no feed to see what your Friends were doing, and they didn't implement one until years after Facebook made it the standard.
Facebook isn't killing forums. They're not going to Facebook for discussion of their favorite niche. They're going for a one stop source of all their niches, friends and family's up-to-date info. If they have an interest in a particular topic, they'll go to those sites. After all, the internet is a big place. If being able to do all the stuff you do on Facebook killed all the other sites that specialize in what Facebook also does, Facebook would be killing the internet. No, people will seek out their favorite topic in spite of Facebook, and they'll visit your forum if they 1) find it in the sea of forums that already cover your topic, 2) have an interest in actually discussion that topic 3) are attracted to the vibe of your forum. Which are the things you had for and against you long before Facebook existed.
What Facebook might be killing, though, is off-topic, general discussion forums. Those were tough to build in the first place. I can't see them thriving in a Facebook world, easily.
If that were the criterion for being able to sue people, then I should be able to sue for every car I've owned. Ever. "Because they're selling" is terrible reasoning for "I should buy it", without doing a shred of research. I check the reviews before I buy a .99 cent app.
Poor logic. "not being right for me" is no reason to sue someone. "Not doing what they said it would do" is a perfect reason to sue someone. If you bought a brand new BMW and found it would only turn left, you could easily and successfully sue. Did you?
vBulletin should have stayed with version 3 for a lot longer than it did when IB took over, IB reminds me of other companies that i have seen that do a take over, all they want is their money back asap and advance too fast and mistakes with product releases trying to get as much as possible out of it before it dies.
Facebook isn't killing forums. They're not going to Facebook for discussion of their favorite niche. They're going for a one stop source of all their niches, friends and family's up-to-date info. If they have an interest in a particular topic, they'll go to those sites. After all, the internet is a big place. If being able to do all the stuff you do on Facebook killed all the other sites that specialize in what Facebook also does, Facebook would be killing the internet. No, people will seek out their favorite topic in spite of Facebook, and they'll visit your forum if they 1) find it in the sea of forums that already cover your topic, 2) have an interest in actually discussion that topic 3) are attracted to the vibe of your forum. Which are the things you had for and against you long before Facebook existed.
What Facebook might be killing, though, is off-topic, general discussion forums. Those were tough to build in the first place. I can't see them thriving in a Facebook world, easily.
Concur with that, but what's REALLY happening is, the mobile addiction. Forums by and large really haven't caught up yet with being mobile device friendly - people just want to use their phone for everything. It's convenience and it's dopamine.
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vBulletin should have stayed with version 3 for a lot longer than it did when IB took over, IB reminds me of other companies that i have seen that do a take over, all they want is their money back asap and advance too fast and mistakes with product releases trying to get as much as possible out of it before it dies.
Poor logic. "not being right for me" is no reason to sue someone. "Not doing what they said it would do" is a perfect reason to sue someone. If you bought a brand new BMW and found it would only turn left, you could easily and successfully sue. Did you?
But again, I should be able to sue every car company I ever purchased a car from on that basis. The way people post about vB5, is as if everything they've ever purchased before actually was superior "to the leading brand".
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Hm, and if they hide their customer reviews (aka feedback) from new customers?
From new customers? I mean, if you went ahead and bought the product without reviewing it...that kinda goes back to my point.
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