Yea I agree with this too.
I'm personally not a big fan of vB5 anyways.
It made the vBulletin.com forum very laggy for me.
All the flash and drop downs and things flying everywhere, I'm not a fan of it.
Generally, I would say "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" is one of the worst all around philosophies for anything, anywhere, ever. But in this case, the addendum would be "and you don't have the time." The site is working and doesn't really have a downside to keeping it the way it is, AND there do not appear to be the appropriate resources (e.g. time) to make such an elaborate transition. So, in this case, I can see where they're coming from.
There are no current plans to move the site to vB5.
Atm, our efforts are concentrated on vB5 development, and the main vb.com site.
This site runs quite happily as it is, so for the moment at least, its a case of "it aint broke, so dont fix it".
This mentality just kills me. Well not really.
But honestly Paul - What do you think would happen if the bulk of vBulletin customers were to say that? "My site ain't broke, so there's no need to "fix" it to the broken vB-anything-above-3.8.x..."
vBulletin the software would have ceased to exist is what would happen. Anyway... Moving on....
I agree with "if it ain't broke, don't fix it", but I interpret it less literally to mean "don't make changes unless you understand the costs vs. benefits". If you take it that way, I think we all agree.
Applying that to vbulletin.org, obviously some people are of the opinion that it would be worth the costs to upgrade vbulletin.org. But the people who actually have to pay for it don't feel that way. In the absence of actual data to support the argument, it's just a difference of opinion.
But honestly Paul - What do you think would happen if the bulk of vBulletin customers were to say that? "My site ain't broke, so there's no need to "fix" it to the broken vB-anything-above-3.8.x..."
I am not the bulk of vb customers, but I am one. I bought a vB3 license, updated it for several years, and I'm happy with my 3.8 site. It gives me and my users all we need. I can't say that there is anything in any more recent version that we *need* on my site. So, vB3.8 is where I will keep my site. (Of course, it's heavily modified and so the things I really need are nothing that will every be offered in the default software anyway.)
But maybe before any radical moves like this ask people what they want by a poll cause for example I myself don't want any changes and I bet it would only complicate things.
But honestly Paul - What do you think would happen if the bulk of vBulletin customers were to say that? "My site ain't broke, so there's no need to "fix" it to the broken vB-anything-above-3.8.x..."
vBulletin the software would have ceased to exist is what would happen. Anyway... Moving on....
J.
However, that's not really the issue. Which is the point I was trying to make with my last post. The real issue is who has the time to make all the changes. You and I both know that rebuilding a website is something you can, and should, only do when you have all the resources at your disposal. Having the know-how is one resource. Having the time to implement that know-how is another. (And having the time to standby and work out all the bugs of your new creation, is one thing more.)
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But maybe before any radical moves like this ask people what they want by a poll cause for example I myself don't want any changes and I bet it would only complicate things.
A website upgrade should be an administrative decision, not a user end one. They would know better than anyone whether it's appropriate or not.
So, vB3.8 is where I will keep my site. (Of course, it's heavily modified and so the things I really need are nothing that will every be offered in the default software anyway.)
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A website upgrade should be an administrative decision, not a user end one. They would know better than anyone whether it's appropriate or not.
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