I love Vbulletin 4 allready do you ?

[Vaupell]

thinking that styling took a turn for the worse with vb4,,
vb3 was soo smooth and extremely easy to costumize, ewen
change the complete layout of the forum..

im finding it wery complicated in vb4 trying to make a Xmax theme atm,
and have alot of issues with it, howewer im sure its beta issues so ill just
work around and keep my mouth shut until they go gold.

but still general appearence and user end, vb4 is the best.
admin end its more grrrrr than ahhh..