Miscellaneous Hacks - vB Global Translator - Multiply your indexed pages & put search traffic on autopilot

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[Dave Hybrid]

Originally Posted by imported_silkroad

Not if you have a Sitemap with priorities and frequencies set propertly.

Dave, why are you so *against* proper Google Sitemaps?

You answer posts like "the Google expert" but you don't mention the basics which are so important :-) Some of your replies are technically incorrect about Google. (like your earlier comment about no non-english URLs.)

Lighten up :-)

Ay? How did you get that impression from a single sentence. You need to stop reading wrongly into my posts. You're always looking for a negative and jump on my 'attitude' at any excuse.

I have never proclaimed to be an expert, i am just putting across my opinion and yes re; the urls, i cant be right all the time and i doubt you are either. Maybe YOU should lighten up.

Back on topic though yeah...

I do use a proper sitemap and have never said you shouldn't. Google, on my sites at least and others I oversee index pages closer to the root first, they get more juice as 99% of a sites links goto the homepage and juice filters down. They simply get picked up faster. Ranking is a whole different ball game however.

Also Google says that a sitemap helps it find pages faster, they also say... they decide what and when it crawls, not you.

Disclaimer* This is just my opinion, and may differ from others opinions. Also, I am in a happy mood and am not being defensive. Just so we are clear lol.

[Dave Hybrid]

Originally Posted by imported_silkroad

Remember, it is much harder to dump an "unproductive language" (from Google's index) than to manage the process from the beginning.

In the past I have just htaccess 301'd the hl=country to the root for any country's i want removed from the index after disabling them on the script first (removing the flag).

[imported_silkroad]

Originally Posted by Dave Hybrid

I have never proclaimed to be an expert, i am just putting across my opinion and yes re; the urls, i cant be right all the time and i doubt you are either. Maybe YOU should lighten up.

I know about how Google works pretty well, and your advice regarding how Google indexes is inaccurate.

I think it is important to advise accurately, and I am sure you agree.

You posted that Google does not use non-English URL - that is inaccurate. (NPL-er also corrected).

You posted that Google priorities crawling based on the how close the URL is to the "root domain" - that is also not really accurate. Google priorities based on priorities (and frequencies) in the sitemaps.

PS: I am not "jumping on you" - I am correcting some fairly important techincal errors you posted about Google (knowing you would take it personally, LOL) I would post the same if my Mother posted inaccurate information about how Google indexes, and I love my mom :-)

[imported_silkroad]

Originally Posted by Dave Hybrid

In the past I have just htaccess 301'd the hl=country to the root for any country's i want removed from the index after disabling them on the script first (removing the flag).

That is a good idea, it seems.

Thanks!

[Dave Hybrid]

Originally Posted by imported_silkroad

I know about how Google works pretty well, and your advice regarding how Google indexes is inaccurate.

I think it is important to advise accurately, and I am sure you agree.

You posted that Google does not use non-English URL - that is inaccurate. (NPL-er also corrected).

You posted that Google priorities crawling based on the how close the URL is to the "root domain" - that is also not really accurate. Google priorities based on priorities (and frequencies) in the sitemaps.

PS: I am not "jumping on you" - I am correcting some fairly important technical errors you posted about Google (knowing you would take it personally, LOL) I would post the same if my Mother posted inaccurate information about how Google indexes, and I love my mom :-)

Ah I see now, so you're the expert. Is that your reasoning to why I am wrong? What's is it like to work in the plex alongsite Matt Cutts? Oh, that's right, you dont and thus are as clueless as the rest of us. All you have like the rest of us is an educated guess.

I said that is how Google behaves on my site, nothing more nothing less. I also said I got the url issue wrong, you cant buy non english domains so I assumed urls were no different. It's a simple mistake.

But here we go again, if YOU get personal with someone how else can they take it. If I start picking holes in your attitude than I'm sure you would take it personally, it's human nature.

I am not going to speak with you any more, you seem hell bent on making personal attacks, which i have no time for. You wanna talk technical I'm all ears, you wanna talk personal than no dice.

Are you really that bored and lonely that you need to pick fights and argue online. Get off the PC mate.

[Spinball]

Yes Dave, but it's not as simple as that. The servers for a huge forum cost a lot of money and there is a delay between having the impressions and your sales team being able to sell enough advertising to cover the additional cost.
Might be a good idea to get some feedback from huge forum administrators in your first post.

[allinvain]

I'm wondering, is it possible to add an additional language to the translation setup? The language I'm looking for is Vietnamese.

[basilrath]

I know about how Google works pretty well, and your advice regarding how Google indexes is inaccurate.

I think it is important to advise accurately, and I am sure you agree.

You posted that Google does not use non-English URL - that is inaccurate. (NPL-er also corrected).

You posted that Google priorities crawling based on the how close the URL is to the "root domain" - that is also not really accurate. Google priorities based on priorities (and frequencies) in the sitemaps.

PS: I am not "jumping on you" - I am correcting some fairly important techincal errors you posted about Google (knowing you would take it personally, LOL) I would post the same if my Mother posted inaccurate information about how Google indexes, and I love my mom :-)

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Ah I see now, so you're the expert. Is that your reasoning to why I am wrong? What's is it like to work in the plex alongsite Matt Cutts? Oh, that's right, you dont and thus are as clueless as the rest of us. All you have like the rest of us is an educated guess.

I said that is how Google behaves on my site, nothing more nothing less. I also said I got the url issue wrong, you cant buy non english domains so I assumed urls were no different. It's a simple mistake.

But here we go again, if YOU get personal with someone how else can they take it. If I start picking holes in your attitude than I'm sure you would take it personally, it's human nature.

I am not going to speak with you any more, you seem hell bent on making personal attacks, which i have no time for. You wanna talk technical I'm all ears, you wanna talk personal than no dice.

Are you really that bored and lonely that you need to pick fights and argue online. Get off the PC mate.

May i suggest that you guys move this onwards or at least try to work alongside, which if im honest would probably achieve tremendous results. The mod in my humble opinion is well worthy of mod of the month but as mentioned by imported_silkroad has its problems ............... so why not channel your thoughts into its workability rather than its negativity ?

Just my thoughts and again its a great mod.

[tpearl5]

Originally Posted by imported_silkroad

You can help manage this by setting your both priority and update frequencies in your Google Sitemaps. You can set your threads a higher priority than posts, etc.

Our experience is that Google does tend to follow their own Sitemap standards, but you have to use them and use them wisely :-)

Originally Posted by Dave Hybrid

Google considers pages closer to the domain root as more important, so that is why those pages get indexed 1st.

Well, to be more specific, google is indexing tags, member pages, and blog pages first. I don't even have blogs in the sitemaps and the priority for the member and tags pages is lower than thread pages.

I don't know - I guess I'll just wait and see. My translate tables already total over 2 million records and are on a steady increase!

[tpearl5]

Originally Posted by Spinball

Yes Dave, but it's not as simple as that. The servers for a huge forum cost a lot of money and there is a delay between having the impressions and your sales team being able to sell enough advertising to cover the additional cost.
Might be a good idea to get some feedback from huge forum administrators in your first post.

I understand about servers being expensive, but like mentioned above, you don't have to enable every language. I chose only the most used. Regardless, I'm curious why you don't use adsense and advertisers like vibrant media, kontera, and chitika?