I disagree with you totally jacquii. The thread has turned out to be against customers not being able to express their concerns (what I've been saying throughout this thread). For some unknown reason, anyone showing concern (which is well within their rights as license holders) have that right to express their concern, for a software they have shown dedication to, and developed for for so many years. This isn't even about if vbulletin is going to be a success or not, but what the future holds, The companies agenda, which is concerning a lot of customers amongst other things. we can get into the whole conjecture and debate argument, but in no way has anyone flamed (which uk stated in his earlier responses). In no way have customers scare mongered (which was also accused). it's the ability for the customer to express their concerns which a few have made valid arguments for.
Now, in a totally different thread. I was asked by the same person what my views were, though when I expressed my views in this thread regarding allowing concern people being able to express their views this was slammed as scare mongering/flaming.
You point me to one instance where I or anyone showing concerns of scare mongering and/or flaming? I must have said this a hundred times, I am not concerned I have no doubt vbulletin 4.0 will remain the no1 forum script though the debate is now allowing people to express their concerns whther it's speculating/ factual or otherwise because whether people like it or not the last update by ray morgan didn't really specify a great deal and I'm guessing that the latest updated as just increased their concerns.
The thread is becoming quite repetitive and this only happens when certain people don't agree with the subject matter which isn't speculation.
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Originally Posted by Ray Morgan
By way of dev update, there are two major tasks remaining before we release the vB Forums for alpha testing:
* Finish porting the new vB4 style into templates. In terms of developer-hours, this is the largest single task of the project, and because of the natural flow of development, it happens to come at the very end.
* Pre-alpha regression testing. The alpha release is the earliest point at which a build is usable without major problems, so this round of testing is to make sure that the release doesn't just fall over as soon as it's installed.
Alpha will proceed in two phases: Forums first, then the full Suite. Beta will probably also be phased, but we are leaving ourselves the option of starting beta for Forums and Suite at the same time if it makes sense to do so.
Also, thanks to the hundreds of you who have applied to participate in beta testing, and especially for following the application instructions so closely. (For those who have tried email, voice mail, Facebook, LinkedIn, Twitter, carrier pigeons and smoke signals, you get props for creativity, but please help me out and see my previous post.)
In answer to a few FAQs:
When will pricing and licensing be announced?
When all of the details are worked out. (I know it seems like it should be easy, but trust me on this, it's harder than it looks.) This will be near the time of the gold release.
When will that be?
As soon as possible, but my best estimate at the moment is August, hopefully early in the month. Yes, we were hoping to be able to release before the end of Q2, but while everyone has been working hard and fast, we're committed to take the time necessary to get it right before releasing. We know you expect nothing less. :-)
Hurry up! Move Faster! No, wait, take your time! Make it better!
There are currently more people working on vBulletin that at any time in the product's history, and the pace is intense. We are moving as fast as a software project of this size can move.
In parallel with the template porting describe above, we have decided to also take some extra time to beef up some aspects of the CMS, which we feel is a wise investment of time.
More to come as events unfold...
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I've quote rays last update. Highlighted in red is the last area before releasing for alpha test (information that some people will find usefull) it merley says it's nearly done.
Highlighted in green is an important question customers want to know but the response given is not answered.
Highlighted in orange is information that people know already, we know what alpha testing involves. You don't have to be a genius.
If that makes people comfortable, fine then that is well within anyones right, if your an already concerned customer, I have no doubt they have just got more concerned by the lack of information.
06-26-2009, 10:39 PM
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