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Old 02-27-2009, 04:31 PM
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Your talking about a country that threw people in jail for printing articles that where not favorable towards the king and queen, what do you expect?

When the uncle of Benjamin Franklin (James Franklin) printed that the freedom of speech was a right given by GOD and not the king, he was arrested and put on trial. When the jury agreed that the right to speak was given by GOD and not the king, the judge had the entire jury arrested.

James Franklin was also prohibited from printing certain articles unless it was approved by the Secretary of the Province.

http://www.archive.org/stream/benjam...niala_djvu.txt



Benjamin Franklin was also arrested, but was released because he was printing what his master (his uncle) told him to print.

Not much has changed in the last 250 years.
To be honest, The laws of 250 years ago cannot be compared to the laws now. At that point in history, that was the law, and if it was broken then people got punished, end of story.

What we need to look at VERY carefully, both in Europe and America is how laws are being created in favor of the criminals, especially since they use Human Rights Act to protect themselves.

In the UK over the past couple of days, Defence secretary John Hutton has apologised to MPs because British forces in Iraq handed over to the Americans two terror suspects, who were then transferred to Afghanistan for interrogation.

Why? The Americans are our principal allies and the senior partners in the coalition.

In World War II, would we have apologised for transferring two Nazis captured in France to the custody of General Patton?

Of course not. What's the problem with their being interrogated in Afghanistan?

No one seems to mind British firms outsourcing work to call centres in India. I fail to understand why people of a certain mindset bend over themselves to swallow every last allegation of abuse by jihadists dedicated to our destruction.

They accept without question any 'innocent' explanation of what these people were doing when they were picked up on the battlefield - from attending weddings to taking computer courses.

Yet they are convinced that our allies and our own security services are always lying.
They can't wait for Binman Mohamed to start telling lurid tales about how he was tortured. His sister Zuhra says: 'He's thin, but he's sharp. He knows what he's talking about.' Too right, he does. Islamist terrorists are as skilled in propaganda as they are in explosives.

They know that our own 'bien pensant' selfloathing and gullibility are potent weapons to be turned against us - as lethal as using our 'asylum' laws to infiltrate our society and hijacking our airliners and flying them into tower blocks.

There's a war on, not a teddy bears' picnic. These people are our sworn enemies, not hapless victims.

Yet while ministers salve their consciences by hanging out to dry our soldiers and secret agents, they hide behind Cabinet secrecy laws to cover their own culpability.

Hutton was one of those who voted for the invasion of Iraq. He can't start trying to wash his hands of the consequences now. At least these two captured in Iraq were sent to Afghanistan, not Camp Gitmo.

Otherwise, by now they'd have been flown to Britain, where they'd immediately be welcomed as heroes by the human rites brigade, showered with legal aid and welfare benefits and would be preparing to take their place on the chat show sofa alongside Binman Mohamed.

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