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Old 01-22-2009, 12:46 PM
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Geez.

As Wayne put it (brilliantly): To detain people without due process is a direct violation of core fundamentals that made America what it was. To think we should imprison people without trial just in case they are bad guys is sooo 1984 and so inherently wrong just like invading a country under unproven, false propaganda is wrong.

Like him or hate him, at least Obama is performing his moral duty to try and set some things to right that have been allowed to skate by because a society in fear is a society that can be controlled and manipulated. Better that than more of the same old same old that we get from the last president.

Being an American living in the UK I can say that the behaviour of the US over the past 8 years would have shamed and terrified the very founding fathers of our country.

Whether the honeymoon lasts with Obama is irrelevant. He has at least started to do the things that a leader should do and has started to execute the agenda that the American citizens voted him in on. People love to be pessimists. The people that came up with the idea of imprisoning people without due process share the same outlook on life but oddly would most likely scream the loudest if they were thrown into a prison 'just in case they became a bad guy'.
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