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Old 07-24-2007, 11:56 PM
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While owned by Jelsoft, this site has nothing to do with security on vBulletin. I keep seeing many make this comparison and it doesn't wash, not to mention the liability issue to Jelsoft should they know of a vulnerability in a mod and not make it known. It's one thing to have a liability on your own product, it's quite another to assume potential liability on a 3rd party product. And regardless of what Jelsoft does with it's own products, what YOU are doing is advocating allowing the end users to remain vulnerable for a security issue you created.
Have I said Jelsoft should be held reposible for anything made by 3rd party, where SHOW ME! Jelsoft choose not to inform users when they discover a security issue but only and as quickly as the release the fix.

So its fine for Jelsoft not to inform its users but not me? you don't seem to make sense, you are asking me to inform all my hack users, then why not Jelsoft?

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Jelsoft's practices have no bearing on this discussion because these are not Jelsoft mods.
who said it does? so you like Jelsoft practices but not mine, its a shame that the practices are exactly the same! yet you see a difference? I wan't to try and make sure when I inform users of a security issue I issue the fix at the same time, if I am unable to fix its fair to say I should inform them with 24 hours IF i can't fix it!

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Obviously at least one person knows of the vulnerability, there quite possibly could be many others who are choosing to exploit the vulnerability rather than announce it. Again, you advocate allowing this to happen.
the same again applies with every script out there not matter who creates it, if no one reports a security issue, it won't be fixed. Remember the user reporting has done so in good faith so the issue can be fixed, no doubt there are users who won't report it and rather take advantage. Ones a issue becomes public it becomes a race to get the fix out before even more users are able to take advantage. Now the minority has become the majority. And now there's more pressure on the mod creator.

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It's up the the end user to make that decision. You have no right to make it for them and you have a responsibility to inform them of the vulnerability immediately so that they may protect themselves from harm through code you produced.
Wait so Jelsoft have the right to make the decision for you and I don't? why not me? Wheres my right? So you trust Jelsoft more than the coders here.

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There is no pro to your argument. Only cons, and the con is to the end user you want to keep at risk to protect your own reputation
wait don't Jelsoft do that?

I'm sorry for using Jelsoft as a example I'm sure theres more out there.
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